" The company said it does not consider it appropriate to enter into talks ” Omnibuses2.0 Thinking the unthinkable (Links in with this post!) TGP Iron age |
National Express confirmed that it had rebuffed an approach from its rival to create a powerful force in the public transport industry through an all-share transaction. The company said it "does not consider it appropriate" to enter into talks with FirstGroup while it attempts to whittle down a £1.2bn debt burden and deal with its east coast franchise, which must pay the government £1.4bn by 2015. FirstGroup, owner of four franchises, including First Great Western, said it believed there was "significant industrial and commercial logic" in a deal. The combined group would carry more than 1.4 billion bus passengers and 409 million rail passengers in the UK a year. The Guardian 30/6/2009 Clearly a takeover of National Express by First would attract a great deal of attention from the Government due to the sheer size of the combined company. Many commentators believe that this alone is enough to ensure that a merger is just not possible between the two. The other reason why the Government may not allow such a deal is due to issues with the rail franchise held by National Express. National Express is having difficulties with its East Coast Mainline franchise with the Transport Minister Lord Adonis playing tough with the company at the moment and most observers feel that this has to be sorted before any such takeover can go ahead anyway. However an article in The Guardian today suggests otherwise… One man who will be hoping that FirstGroup launches a hostile bid for rival transport group National Express is Lord Adonis, the Transport minister, for whom such a deal might just be a golden opportunity to wriggle off a difficult political hook. In public, the Department for Transport has given the impression that it will not compromise with National Express over the terms of its under-performing East Coast Main Line franchise. In private, however, Lord Adonis knows he has a problem. National Express may have no one but itself to blame for the predicament in which it finds itself over the East Coast, but the parlous state of its finances means it does need a deal. However, were National Express to come under new ownership, Lord Adonis might find it easier to come to some sort of accommodation on this issue. One could imagine him justifying some sort of relaxation of the terms of the East Coast franchise if he could say, in the same breath, that the management responsible for getting National Express into its pickle had departed. There would be some competition issues to wrestle with, because the combination of FirstGroup and National Express would have a stranglehold on certain types of service, particularly commuter journeys into London. Still, this too might present Lord Adonis with a PR opportunity: if he were able to force the combined group to give up certain franchises, he could argue that further sanctions had been imposed in return for an East Coast deal.
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30 June 2009
First National Express?
29 June 2009
Targeting Derriford
" at first glance this seems like a win win situation for everybody? ” |
As far as the Park and Ride site at The George is concerned this is great news. The new entrance is something that is long overdue and I am sure will be very popular. We certainly used to use the Park and Ride quite a lot but got fed up with having to drive up to the Woolwell roundabout just to get in, and then have to go back up again to get out. We never did understand why this wasn't designed in to the site in the first place, but better late than never! |
28 June 2009
Sunday Best: Devon General
"a VRT really has to be in NBC Green” dbg Elsewhere... 1028 Cyber security Others... TGP Sea Sun’d Wood Tornado Omnibuses2.0 How do we measure up? Contrast | ©AecRegent Back before the X80 was the 129 with the 128 becoming the X38. I am not sure when this change was made but I guess it was early 1980's. Hopefully someone out there will know and tell us? Devon General VOD590S departs from Bretonside to Torbay. It looks like there are a few unpainted panels on the right hand side, presumably after accident repairs. As far as I am concerned a VRT really has to be in NBC Green but even in red, this is a lovely scene! |
26 June 2009
Scrubbers at the bus station
" you could have saved your elbow grease and invested in some Semtex ” dbg Elsewhere... Photoshop Penguin Others... Omnibus2.0 Nottingham TGP Appledore Nature takes over Local History Westward TV Flickr Bretonside at Midnight |
Councillor Mike Leaves, Cabinet member for street scene, waste and sustainability, said: "We're pleased to be working alongside our partners and local traders to make Bretonside cleaner, brighter and more inviting for local bus users and especially visitors to the city. "It's important that people coming to Plymouth for the first time get a warm welcome, a good first impression and can find their way in and around the bus station easily. We're delighted volunteers from the Probation Service and Shekinah Mission are supporting our efforts."
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25 June 2009
The Dennis that never dominated
"Plymouth probably tried out just about every type of bus on the market” Others... Omnibuses2.0 PhotoFit TGP Kiss Kiss Pebbles Stumped | ©Dale Tringham 25 March 1978. (used with permission) When Leicester Dennis Dominator UFP237S appeared in Plymouth for a trial, Dennis were very much a minnow in the UK bus market. I remember when this one appeared in service and I managed quite a few rides on her, and recall being very impressed and desperately hoped that Plymouth would buy some. Of course as a young bus spotter that might just have been down to the ‘anything but Atlanteans again’ school of though. Of course we all know that Citybus did indeed stick with Atlanteans. Plymouth probably tried out just about every type of bus on the market, but never actually bought anything other than Atlanteans for its double deck fleet. That did though change when they tried a few Olympians, and then bought Volvo’s - although only four of them new! One thing that this Leicester bus did demonstrate successfully was the East Lancs bodywork as it featured in Plymouths orders for the V, W and X reg batches. Back in 1978 I am sure even Dennis would not have expected to be where they are today. Everything changed when the Dart hit the market and Plymouth became a Dart city, like so many others. |
23 June 2009
Citybus for sale!
"Plymouth Citybus look after their buses very well ” Others... Omnibuses2.0 Quack CWAC | Well at least a little bit of it is... Former Plymouth Citybus 275 N275PDV is currently up for sale on Ebay. As I type this it is standing at £2700 - but you only have until 26th June to bid! Ebay Link “1995 25str Mercedes direct from Plymouth city bus mot till 10th march 2010 bought to use on a park and ride but not required. Excellent condition many new parts not used since mot drives very well .these buses are very reliable Plymouth city bus look after there buses very well if it needed a new part etc they are always replaced good tyres .Will carry on for many years as a psv or would convert very easily to a camper van interior dimensions are height 6ft 6" width 7ft length 22ft behind driver 18ft can be seen over a pit if required “ |
Justified and explained?
| " The decision to remove any bus subsidy is always a difficult one but we cannot justify the cost of running buses with only a handful of passengers ” ©Robert Burn | Council Justification: Services across the Council are having to make significant financial savings because of the economic downturn and we also expect a shortfall in funding for the national concessionary fares scheme of up to £1 million this year, which will further add to the financial pressures on our transport service. This makes it especially important to target our resources where they are most needed.”
The key changes are as follows:
"The decision to remove any bus subsidy is always a difficult one but we cannot justify the cost of running buses with only a handful of passengers. We are confident that by working with local operators to make changes to the network as a whole we are getting much better value for taxpayers’ money. ANGRY residents said they are prepared to picket outside the Council House in protest against their "lifeline" bus service being scrapped. More than 50 people gathered at Glenholt Park to voice their disgust that the no 57 is being replaced by an "inadequate" Taxibus service with much smaller vehicles. Elma Baddeley, aged 61, a Glenholt Park resident, said her 20-strong women's group rely on the bus service for regular day trips. She added: "It's our independence they are taking away. We get the bus everywhere and we are not going to fit in a taxi. Some people have given up their cars because the bus service has been so good." This is Plymouth Informed? Over the past week or so I have been spending a lot of time looking at the information put out by the council and the operators which has been an interesting exercise in itself. Plymouth City Council have a few documents available on their subsidised bus services page: Following a recent tendering exercise by Plymouth City Council, the services/ journeys below will be operated by the following Bus Operators from 5th July: From 5 July 2009 Plymouth City Council has made some significant changes to subsidised bus On the changes they have made of their own they have taken care to detail the changes on the individual timetable page, along with a brief explanation of why they have made the changes. Like this explanation on their new 20 timetable: We are confident that the changes to the service 20 will see increased passenger use. It won’t be enough to cover the loss of funding for the Service 20A hence the changes being made, and the loss of services to Steer Park. Plymouth Citybus does operate Service 21 & 51 to Steer Park “We get the bus everywhere and we are not going to fit in a taxi” Angry Glenholt resident sums up the biggest issue with replacing buses with taxis. I actually enjoy catching the 224 Taxibus and get on well with all the regular drivers who are very friendly and offer a good service. I have only had to share a taxis one one or two occasions. This is partly because most of the journey I take is also covered by Citybus who are cheaper and more frequent. I can use my travel pass so the fare is not an issue. There are a few locals who will catch whatever comes first but most will just wait for the Citybus or Target bus so overcrowding is not an issue. On some of these new routes I can see bigger problems. The little old ladies popping down to Derriford Hospital Canteen for lunch (it happens!) might find the taxi is full. The new 226 service provides a new link between Austin Farm and Asda which is a very popular store. Many of them can catch the 47 but it goes the long way round. A quick 5 min ride in a taxi bus seems like a great idea. as long as no more people get the same idea at the same time! |
22 June 2009
Topless in Plymouth
"Bracing was the right word for it” dbg Elsewhere... Negativity Others... Omnibuses2.0 Do you measure up? Scenic Local History The Bounty TGP Tornado Other photos of the buses on Flickr… WJY758 August 76 WJY758 in York WJY758 October 2008 WJY759 Plymouth WJY760 Plymouth WJY760 Golden Hinde WJY760 Applebys Imposter: WJY759 ![]() | With all the heavy stuff going on at the moment a bit of light relief... ©Syd Eade - used with permission. Thanks to Syd for allowing me to use these great old shots from June 1975. Happy days - the Bovisand trip on an Atlantean was always a real treat with great views over Bovisand and Plymouth. Bracing was the right word for it! For me, Bovisand itself was always a disappointment, but the ride was a real treat. WJY758, WJY759 and WJY760 operated in open top for for Plymouth City Transport. |
July Five
"there are areas of Plymouth who will see quite a reduction in service ” | D DayThe 5th July 2009 sees quite a few changes to the bus network in Plymouth. Although much of the network remains pretty much the same, there are areas of Plymouth who will see quite a reduction in service with many connections lost, or at least requiring a change of buses. This post serves as a recap of the changes detailed in full over the past week (follow the More… link to the detailed post) along with other changes announced for the same date.
Tomorrow I will add a few more thoughts of my own, along with some note on how the operators are presenting the changes. |
21 June 2009
Cutbacks: 227 Taxibus
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| Continuing our look at the re-tendered services after the cutbacks on the 5th July 2009 Service 227 Taxibus: Southway - Belliver |
Sunday Best: Plymouth UCO60L
"Plymouth embraced first generation everything ” dbg Elsewhere... Numberzz 36 million 10 pence PenguinFood No FiRE Others... Alredbus on Flickr Omnibuses2.0 Scenic Blogwatch (a good one!) TGP What next? | ©Alredbus “Plymouth embraced first generation everything, firstly Atlanteans and then Nationals. The Mark One's had their problems and lasted only 5 years with Plymouth Citybus before being moved on. Here UCO60L is caught at Derry's Cross in the city looking quite smart in this Red and White livery. Couldn’t wait to post this shot! A smart looking Leyland National on a bright sunny day. You dont often see a bus on the move with a door open these days! |
19 June 2009
Its not in Plymouth but…
"get your family to take you to the seaside for Fathers Day” | Another event for you this weekend is 3rd Weymouth Vintage Bus Running Day on Sunday – those of you who are dads, get your family to take you to the seaside for Fathers Day – those of you who aren’t come along anyway. There are lots of opportunities for superb scenic photos on the free services, which will be operated by an interesting selection of vehicles, to Portland Bill, Bowleaze Cove, The Nothe Fort (last served by National toastracks before WW2), and new for this year a Town Circular Service serving the railway (not train!) station. There is also a Mystery Drive at 14.05 planned to be operated by an OB, RE & LS coaches and a Leopard. The rally and services are based at the Weymouth College site adjacent to Lodmoor Coach Park. Bus services leave the site at 10 minute intervals from 10.00 to 16.30. There will also be a good selection of trade stands in attendance for your special father’s day gift! Hot food and refreshments provided by the college will be available on site all day The Royal Blue Run will be arriving late Saturday afternoon to stay overnight before departing for Portsmouth on Sunday Morning from Weymouth Pavilion at 10.30am. The website for the event is: www.weymouthvbrd.co.uk/ |
Cutbacks: 60
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| Continuing our look at the re-tendered services after the cutbacks on the 5th July 2009 Service 60/A Derriford - The George - Broadley Park |
18 June 2009
Kay Out Kay In
"it has departed down into deepest Cornwall ” Others... TGP Exe Bridge Lights North Devon Coast Lynmouth Omnibuses2.0 Afraid So Dottingham Limbo 2 (must read!) Limbo (must read!) Eastbourne Local History Bowls on the Hoe | Plymouth Citybus 104 K104SFJ is the latest of the batch to be sold as it has departed down into deepest Cornwall this last week. I will have an update of the current fleet position later next week. As Citybus say goodbye to their K reg First Devon and Cornwall have added one to theirs. 34626 has been acquired from First Bristol. I always liked this style of body from Northern Counties and it joins similar buses K801-4ORL in the fleet. There were several others of this batch listed as withdrawn by First Bristol this month, so it remains to be seen if any of the others will be joining her in the fleet. Lets hope so. ©Nick Rice (or THE MARAUDER 43366 as he like to call himself these days!) |



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