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01 December 2016

Real Time Information - Really this time?

Its been a long time coming but…
Digital displays in Plymouth’s bus shelters are to get an upgrade, meaning more reliable and accurate information for passengers. We’re currently tendering for a new system that will deliver improvements to our 85 ‘real time’ screens, which show information about the next services due at bus stops. We plan to move from 2G mobile phone technology to 3G or better, which will speed up communication between buses and displays. This should improve the accuracy of wait times shown and reduce problems with buses failing to appear on the displays because of lost data connection.
Other planned improvements include remote monitoring of the displays, so that any faults can be detected and repaired more quickly and passengers experience fewer issues with missing information or blank screens. A more flexible system will also allow important service messages to be shown at short notice – for example details of any route or timetable changes resulting from adverse weather, emergency roadworks or other unexpected problems. And it is hoped all bus services will be included on the displays – not just those operated by Plymouth Citybus and Stagecoach.
The displays will be turned off for a few months while the current system is replaced and passengers will be advised to use the printed timetables available at all stops. Screens at the new coach station will remain on but will also be upgraded through the new contract.
Councillor Steve Ricketts, Cabinet Member for Transport and Housing Delivery, said: “We need bus travel to be a convenient and reliable travel option as Plymouth continues to grow and investing in technology like real time displays is really important to passengers. By moving to a new, more responsive system we will be able to deliver improvements that will really make a difference to people travelling around Plymouth by bus.” 
Plymouth City Council
We have been here a few times before with promise of decent real time displays at bus stops and yet each time, so far, its all been a bit of a let down. Hopefully this time it will all work and all buses will display true real time information. It cant be that difficult to achieve these days can it?
DF Display

29 November 2016

Devon Transit 050

Welcome to Devon Transit 050

Its quite fitting that DT 50, the 100th in the joint Devon / Cornwall Transit series should be such a big one. There is plenty going on here with some major timetable changes (reductions) by Stagecoach starting right now and also quite a lot of changes for Plymouth Citybus next week.
I am still getting to grips with the new VOSA web site which has a much better search option and look than the old site but is still missing the one key feature - the ability to check licence changes by date. It remains to be seen if and when this comes back but for now I will be relying on the N&P editions, which may or may not be going weekly in future?
If you have chanced across my didbygraham site, or looked in to my Flickr account you may well have seen the new slightly revised format for the maps (CM Coaches X46 X47 below) too. These are a lot quicker for me to put together which is handy when you get so many changes all in one go.


The Last Two Weeks

New notices on VOSA from the last two weeks:

CM Coaches X46 X47 [PH1132411.003] Exeter Torquay

  • PH1132411/3
  • New Registration
  • C M COACHES LTD, 
  • UNIT 3, GRACE ROAD WEST, MARSH BARTON TRADING ESTATE EXETER EX2 8PU 
  • From: Exeter Bus Station 
  • To: Torquay Strand 
  • Via: Kennford, Penn Inn, Idford Dip 
  • Name or No: X46/X47 
  • Service Type: Normal Stopping, Limited Stop 
  • Effective Date: 28-Nov-2016 
  • Other Details: Monday to Friday


The Next Two Weeks

Previously announced changes due in the next two weeks

Plymouth Citybus 5 5A [PH0000135.094] Saltash City Elburton

  • PH0000135/94 
  • PLYMOUTH CITYBUS LTD, 
  • MILEHOUSE, MILEHOUSE ROAD, PLYMOUTH, PL3 4AA 
  • Variation Accepted: 
  • Operating between St Budeaux, Square 
  • and Eldburton/ Staddiscombe 
  • given service number 5/5A 
  • effective from 04-Dec-2016. 
  • To amend Route and Timetable
  • 5/5A – To improve reliability service 5A will now run Plymstock, City Centre and onto Saltash, with service 5 now running Plymstock to Royal Parade only. The 5/5A will operate via Stanborough Road now the road works in the area have been completed. Saltash will see the introduction of a new hourly Sunday service. Services will now depart from stand A7, instead of stand A1.
  • TT: 5 Plymouth City Centre - Elburton - Plymouth City Centre
  • TT: 5A Saltash - Plymouth City Centre - Elburton - Plymouth City Centre - Saltash
2016 12 04 Plymouth Citybus Route-005 Map.jpg 2016 12 04 Plymouth Citybus Route-005A Map.jpg

Plymouth Citybus 8 9 [PH0000135.012] Royal Parade Efford

2016 12 04 Plymouth Citybus Route-008 Map.jpg

Stagecoach Devon 13 13C 13D [PH1020951.091] Newton Abbot Brixham

  • PH1020951/91 
  • STAGECOACH DEVON LTD T/A STAGECOACH SOUTH WEST, 
  • BELGRAVE ROAD, EXETER, EX1 2LB 
  • Variation Accepted: 
  • Operating between Newton Abbot 
  • and Brixham 
  • given service number 13/13C/13D 
  • effective from 28-Nov-2016
  • To amend Route and Timetable.
  • TT: 13 Newton Abbot - Paignton _ Brixham
  • TT: 13C Torquay - Goodrington
  • TT: 13D Kingsteignton - Paignton
  • Following the end of funding from Devon and Torbay Councils, a reduced timetable will be introduced on route 13. From Monday to Friday, it will run up to every two hours between Newton Abbot and Brixham with extra college journeys in the morning and afternoon
  • Devon CC: Stagecoach are making changes to services 13 and 13B from 28th November. This follows the ending of funding for additional journeys between Torbay Hospital and Totnes from Torbay Council and from Devon County Council for additional journeys serving Aller. The service will now operate between Newton Abbot and Brixham via Aller Brake Road, The Willows, Torbay Hospital, Marldon, Foxhole and South Devon College. The section of route to Totnes will no longer be served. The Saturday and Sunday service is withdrawn.
2016 11 28 Stagecoach Devon Route-013 Map.jpg 2016 11 28 Stagecoach Devon Route-013C Map.jpg 2016 11 28 Stagecoach Devon Route-013D Map.jpg

Stagecoach Devon Hop 22 [PH1020951.208] Dawlish South Devon College

  • PH1020951/208 
  • STAGECOACH DEVON LTD T/A STAGECOACH SOUTH WEST, 
  • BELGRAVE ROAD, EXETER, EX1 2LB 
  • Variation Accepted: 
  • Operating between Dawlish Warren 
  • and South Devon College 
  • given service number 22 
  • effective from 28-Nov-2016. 
  • To amend Route and Timetable
  • TT: 22 Dawlish - Teignmouth - Torquay - Paignton
  • Hop22 will cover journeys between Torquay Harbourside and St Marychurch over the winter, including additional early morning and evening journeys to maintain service levels at key times of the day.
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Stagecoach Devon 23 [PH1020951.209] South Devon College Paignton

  • PH1020951/209
  • STAGECOACH DEVON LTD T/A STAGECOACH SOUTH WEST, 
  • BELGRAVE ROAD, EXETER, EX1 2LB 
  • Variation Accepted: 
  • Operating between South Devon College 
  • and Paignton 
  • given service number 23 
  • effective from 28-Nov-2016. 
  • To amend Timetable.
  • TT: 23 Paignton - Goodrington
  • More earlier afternoon journeys for South Devon College students
2016 05 29 Stagecoach Devon Route-023 Traveline Map.jpg

Plymouth Citybus 25 [PH0000135.086] Royal Parade The Barbican The Hoe

  • PH0000135/86 
  • PLYMOUTH CITYBUS LTD, 
  • MILEHOUSE, MILEHOUSE ROAD, PLYMOUTH, PL3 4AA 
  • Variation Accepted: 
  • Operating between Plymouth, Royal Parade 
  • and Plymouth, Royal Parade 
  • given service number 25 
  • effective from 04-Dec-2016. 
  • To amend Timetable
  • TT: 25 Plymouth City Centre - Barbican - The Hoe - Plymouth City Centre
  • Will see the introduction of a new Sunday and Bank Holiday service.
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Stagecoach Devon 26 [PH1020951.133] Torquay Grammar School

  • PH1020951/133 
  • STAGECOACH DEVON LTD T/A STAGECOACH SOUTH WEST, 
  • BELGRAVE ROAD, EXETER, EX1 2LB 
  • Cancellation Accepted: 
  • Operating between Marldon Road and 
  • Torquay Grammar School 
  • given service number 26 
  • effective from 28-Nov-2016.
  • Service Cancelled. 
  • New service, 28, will combine current 26 and 27 timetable
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Plymouth Citybus 27 27A 27B [PH0000135.146] Royal Parade Eggbuckland Derriford

2016 01 10 Plymouth Citybus Route-27 Map.jpg 2016 01 10 Plymouth Citybus Route-27A Map.jpg 2016 01 10 Plymouth Citybus Route-27B Map.jpg

Plymouth Citybus 28 28A [PH0000135.005] Royal Parade Eggbuckland Derriford / Mainstone

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Stagecoach Devon 28 [PH1020951.134] Torquay Grammar School

  • PH1020951/134 
  • STAGECOACH DEVON LTD T/A STAGECOACH SOUTH WEST, 
  • BELGRAVE ROAD, EXETER, EX1 2LB 
  • Variation Accepted: 
  • Operating between Paignton Bus Stn 
  • and Torquay Grammar School 
  • given service number 28 
  • effective from 28-Nov-2016. 
  • To amend Route and Timetable
  • New service, 28, will combine current 26 and 27 timetable
  • TT: 28 Torquay Grammar Schools - Paignton
2016 11 28 Stagecoach Devon Route-028 MAP.jpg

Plymouth Citybus 32 [PH0000135.176] Royal Parade - Torpoint Ferry

  • PH0000135/176 
  • PLYMOUTH CITYBUS LTD, 
  • MILEHOUSE, MILEHOUSE ROAD, PLYMOUTH, PL3 4AA 
  • Cancellation Accepted: 
  • Operating between Plymouth, Royal Parade 
  • and Torpoint Ferry, Pottery Road 
  • given service number 32 
  • effective from 04-Dec-2016.
  • Service will now be serviced by 70/71 (please see Cornwall changes) Will now depart from Stand A3.
Route-32

Stagecoach Devon 32 32C [PH1020951.015] Torquay Willows - Torquay

  • PH1020951/15 
  • STAGECOACH DEVON LTD T/A STAGECOACH SOUTH WEST, 
  • BELGRAVE ROAD, EXETER, EX1 2LB 
  • Variation Accepted: 
  • Operating between Torbay Hospital/The Willows 
  • and Torquay Strand 
  • given service number 32/32/32C 
  • effective from 28-Nov-2016. 
  • To amend Route and Timetable.
  • TT: 32 Torquay - Shiphay - The Willows
  • TT: 32C St Marychurch - Torquay Grammar Schools
  • Monday - Saturday daytime frequency doubles to every 10 mins between Torquay and Torbay Hospital
  • Buses will change to single decks which are more suited to local roads and will help speed up journey times
  • Over winter period it will not run between Torquay Harbourside and St Marychurch (see note on Hop22 below)
  • From Spring 2017 a new service will restore 10-min frequency from St Marychurch to Torquay town centre 
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Plymouth Citybus 33 [PH0000135.148] Royal Parade Keyham

  • PH0000135/148 
  • PLYMOUTH CITYBUS LTD, 
  • MILEHOUSE, MILEHOUSE ROAD, PLYMOUTH, PL3 4AA 
  • Variation Accepted: 
  • Operating between Plymouth, Royal Parade 
  • and Plymouth, Royal Parade 
  • given service number 33 
  • effective from 04-Dec-2016. 
  • To amend Timetable.
  • Revised Sunday and Bank Holiday Timetable.
  • TT: 33 Plymouth City Centre - St Levan Road - Keyham - Ford - St Levan Road City Centre
Route-33

Plymouth Citybus 40 41 [PH0000135.007] Royal Parade Southway

Route-40

Plymouth Citybus 44 [PH0000135.010] Royal Parade Whitleigh

  • PH0000135/10 
  • PLYMOUTH CITYBUS LTD, 
  • MILEHOUSE, MILEHOUSE ROAD, PLYMOUTH, PL3 4AA 
  • Variation Accepted: 
  • Operating between PLYMOUTH, ROYAL PARADE 
  • and WHITLEIGH 
  • given service number 44 
  • effective from 04-Dec-2016. 
  • To amend Timetable.
  • TT: 44 Plymouth City Centre - Whitleigh Green - Plymouth City Centre
  • Due to congestion, morning peak journeys will receive greater running time to improve reliability. Enhanced Bank Holiday service introduced.
Route-44

Stagecoach Devon 46 [PH1020951.042] Exeter Paignton

  • PH1020951/42 
  • STAGECOACH DEVON LTD T/A STAGECOACH SOUTH WEST, 
  • BELGRAVE ROAD, EXETER, EX1 2LB 
  • Variation Accepted by SN: 
  • Operating between Exeter Bus Station 
  • and Paignton Bus Station 
  • given service number 46 
  • effective from 28-Nov-2016. 
  • To amend Timetable.
  • TT: 46 Exeter - Paignton
  • From 28 November we are introducing a new timetable on our X46 service.
  • The service will be renumbered '46' and run Monday to Saturday with 4 journeys a day in either direction, delivering key commuter and leisure trips. Buses will continue to serve Kingskerswell and there will be an additional stop at Matford Park & Ride, proving new connections to Marsh Barton, Exe Bridges and South Street. A change in usage patterns, developed during the South Devon Highway construction, has resulted in a significant drop in passenger numbers necessitating the new timetable to help try and continue to run the service in the longer term.
  • Departures from Torquay Strand will be at 0700 (school days) or 0715 (school holidays), 1000, 1230 and 1600. Departures from Exeter bus station will be at 0840, 1115, 1445 and 1730. The first departure from Torbay and the last from Exeter will also serve Paignton bus station. New timetables will be available online and in print shortly.
  • Devon CC: Stagecoach are reducing the frequency of service X46 from 28th November. The service will be renumbered 46 and will now provide four journeys per day, Monday – Saturday. The Sunday service is withdrawn.
  • CM coaches will be introducing additional Monday – Friday journeys, which will replace some of those withdrawn and provide an earlier journey from Exeter to Torbay, a later return journey and additional daytime journeys. These additional journeys will start from 28th November. Please note that tickets are not interchangeable between the two operators.
2016 11 28 Stagecoach Devon Route-046.jpg

Plymouth Citybus 50 50A 51 [PH0000135.076] Derriford Estover City St Budeaux

Route-50A 2016 12 04 Plymouth Citybus Route-051.jpg

Plymouth Citybus 61 62 [PH0000135.126] Royal Parade Honicknowle

2015 09 20 Plymouth Citybus Route-061 Map.jpg

Plymouth Citybus 82 [PH0000135.181] Milehouse shuttle

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Plymouth Citybus 83 [PH0000135.180] Milehouse shuttle

2016 12 04 Plymouth Citybus Route-083 MAP.jpg

Dealtop Dartline 174 184 [PH0005305.031] Newton Abbot - The Willows Torquay

  • PH0005305/31 - 
  • DEALTOP LTD T/A DARTLINE COACHES, 
  • UNIT 2, LANGDON BUSINESS PARK, OIL MILL LANE, CLYST ST. MARY, EXETER, EX5 1AF 
  • Variation Accepted by SN: 
  • Operating between Newton Abbot 
  • and The Willows 
  • given service number 174/184 
  • effective from 28-Nov-2016. 
  • To amend Timetable.
  • TT: 174 NEWTON ABBOT - THE WILLOWS Via Milber & Kingskerswell
  • The timetable for service 174 will have minor changes and the 1630 journey from Newton Abbot will now operate on Saturday, as well as Monday – Friday.
Route-174

Dealtop Dartline 381 [PH0005305.055] St Ottery Town Service

  • PH0005305/55 
  • DEALTOP LTD T/A DARTLINE COACHES, 
  • UNIT 2, LANGDON BUSINESS PARK, OIL MILL LANE, CLYST ST. MARY, EXETER, EX5 1AF  
  • Variation Accepted: 
  • Operating between Taleford ( Taleford Close ) 
  • and Taleford ( Taleford Close ) 
  • given service number 381 
  • effective from 28-Nov-2016.
  • To amend Timetable.
  • TT: 381 Ottery St Mary Town Service Circular
  • Slightly revised timings.
Dartline Route-381

Stagecoach Devon Falcon [PH1020951.275] Plymouth Taunton Bristol

  • PH1020951/275 
  • STAGECOACH DEVON LTD T/A STAGECOACH SOUTH WEST, 
  • BELGRAVE ROAD, EXETER, EX1 2LB
  • Registration Accepted
  • Starting Point: Plymouth
  • Finish Point: Bristol
  • Via:
  • Service Number: FLCN
  • Service Type: Limited Stop
  • Effective Date: 03-DEC-2016
  • Other Details: 24 hour daily service
  • TT: FALCON Plymouth - Exeter - Taunton - Bristol Airport - Bristol
  • We have introduced a new stop at Lee Mill. You can now also use the Falcon to make local journeys, for example between Exeter and Cullompton or Churchill and Bristol Airport, making it an ever better choice for your daily commute. From 3 December concessionary passes can be used for journeys between Plymouth and Cullompton and between Taunton and Bristol, subject to local time restrictions. For all other journeys, concessionary passes are not valid however our special £5 return fare2 is available at any time excluding 0445-0930 Monday to Friday.
  • It appears that the registration for the Falcon has actually changed again, but more details of this will have to follow when they appear in N&P
Route-Falcon

CM Coaches X46 X47 [PH1132411.003] Exeter Torquay

  • PH1132411/3
  • New Registration
  • C M COACHES LTD, 
  • UNIT 3, GRACE ROAD WEST, MARSH BARTON TRADING ESTATE EXETER EX2 8PU 
  • From: Exeter Bus Station 
  • To: Torquay Strand 
  • Via: Kennford, Penn Inn, Idford Dip 
  • Name or No: X46/X47 
  • Service Type: Normal Stopping, Limited Stop 
  • Effective Date: 28-Nov-2016 
  • Other Details: Monday to Friday
  • X46 Exeter - Torquay
  • X47 Exeter - Torquay Grammar School
  • Stagecoach are reducing the frequency of service X46 from 28th November. The service will be renumbered 46 and will now provide four journeys per day, Monday – Saturday. The Sunday service is withdrawn.
  • CM coaches will be introducing additional Monday – Friday journeys, which will replace some of those withdrawn and provide an earlier journey from Exeter to Torbay, a later return journey and additional daytime journeys. These additional journeys will start from 28th November.
  • Please note that tickets are not interchangeable between the two operators
2016 11 28 CM Coaches Route-X046 MAP.jpg 2016 11 28 CM Coaches Route-X047.jpg
Thanks once again for all who have commented on any of the previous CT/DTs. As always I welcome any additional information, corrections and photos of buses on the routes. The more you add the more useful these posts get for all of us!

28 November 2016

Life After Plymouth W509WGH

As part of a big historical update I have been working on in the Plymouth Citybus fleetlist I have been searching through Flickr for photographs of many buses to add to the listing. Hopefully a few of the found photos will appear here once I have permission to include them.

Thanks to Faded Image for being quickest to reply. Former Citybus 420 W509WGH seen here with Gumtree.com 22nd September 2016

Volvo B7TL Plaxton President Up A Gumtree

Copyright Faded Image” Click through to a lovely collection of photos - certainly plenty of variety!

The same bus back in January 2012:

Plymouth Citybus 420 W509WGH

23 November 2016

Victorian Plymouth

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