Showing posts with label blast-from-the-past. Show all posts
Showing posts with label blast-from-the-past. Show all posts

23 March 2020

Brand New Leyland Nationals

I promised something special today and for me at least I think this fulfils that promise!

Leyland Nationals

I thought that you might like a photo from the past.  This view was taken at the band new Leyland National factory at Lilyhall, near Workington.

Leyland Nationals SCO 421L and 428L had just been completed and were parked outside the factory, ready to be driven down to Plymouth, as part of Plymouth City Transport's large batch of Nationals.  The date is 6th September 1972.  Leyland Nationals were always delivered with their chassis number (or build number) displayed on the route number blind.  After the completion of prototype and development vehicles, chassis numbers for the production series started at no. 101, so SCO 421L was only the 33rd bus built.

I don't think that this early batch of Nationals lasted very long with PCT.

©Peter Murnaghan


If you have any interesting photos of buses / trains, or any other transport related photos that you want to share then please email them through to photos@plymothiantransit.com and I will post them here. Historical photos or brand new photos welcome - Ideally if you can supply a bit of commentary as well to explain what it is and why its interesting then it will make for a better post and hopefully spark some discussion too! Anything that can help us stuck at home enthusiasts feel a bit better  is a good thing!

Graham

09 May 2016

A Dominator before eventual Dominance

When Plymouth City Transport had this Dennis Dominator on loan for trials in March 1978 it was very much a Leyland City. Dennis was still an upstart producer battling against the might of Leyland. Although as an enthusiast I really liked this bus it clearly didnt make the right impression as it was back to Leyland for more Atlanteans for a few more years.

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© Dale Tringham 25 March 1978

Little did we know back then that over 35 years later the majority of the double deck fleet in Plymouth would be built by Dennis.

14 June 2011

When Barne Barton had real buses

With the increased service on the Barne Barton service it seems like a good time to remember how things used to be...
095-15 Western National FLF 2094 in Plymouth Creative Commons licensed flickr photo shared by Clive Brown
Those were the days! Every 15 minutes alternate 6 and 7s from Saltash Passage / Barne Barton. It was catching these fine machines to school from Barne Barton which sparked my interest in buses all those years ago. It was a conductor who pointed out the fleet numbers on each bus and gave me my first hand written 'fleet list' of the Plymouth based FLFs. Nearly forty years later I am still chasing buses - it was all his fault!

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07 March 2011

Blast from the past: Western National 76

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From the John Evans Collection
Thanks to John I can bring this wonderful shot of a very new Western National Leyland Atlantean VUH377J on the 76 from Callington to Plymouth. The Tamar Bridge behind looks very quiet. The scene today has changed a lot with the bridge itself widened and a new toll booth complex to replace the old huts. First Devon and Cornwall still operate the 76 although Western Greyhound now run their own 576 over the route as well.

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04 December 2008

Hoppa on parade

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Sometimes I have no idea what to post, and little time available to put anything together. I try to keep a few items in hand but this isnt always possible. I didnt want to miss out tonight as I know I wont be posting tomorrow evening as I am out late having a practice drinking session ready for Christmas. I then came across an old CD from 2001 with a few of my old photos on and saw this little Hoppa, ex Western National in what seems to be the Lord Mayors Day Parade from 2001.


Its funny, you look at the fleet of Dennis Darts on the streets of Plymouth and dream of the good old days when Plymothians were carried about in proper double decker buses. Its easy to forget that actually the deckers were mostly seen off by these horrible things - (and Citybus had those awful Renault things) the Darts have then seen these off so at least they were a step back in the right direction!

24 November 2008

A Breton Cyder?

Plymouth City Transport 61 MCO661


©Dale Tringham - used with permission.

From the days of 'proper' Corporations with a crest of arms, comes Plymouth 61 (MCO 661), a Leyland PD2 with Metro Cammell H56R body work. I presume that Whiteway's went into the great cyder pot in the sky some time ago? Opposite Bretonside Bus Station, 24th May 1969.
Thanks to Dale for allowing me to use his photo.
Mark Harrington later added an answer to Dales question:

Commercial cider production at Whiteway's at Whimple in Devon ceased in 1989.

19 August 2008

Blast from the past!


©Sou'wester (Flickr blog this)

One of a batch of ex Western Welsh Alexander-bodied Leyland Atlantean PDR1s passed to Western National, seen here in Plymouth on 1st August 1980

I was never an Atlantean fan but these Alexander bodied machines always seemed so special compared with the standard Citybus examples. Probably just because they were so different to anything else down here. Mostly used on Callington routes they did occasionally appear on Plymouth City routes such as the 7.
Still seems amazing to think that this photo was taken over twenty eight years ago - I must be getting old!

SouWester has a great set of 1980s photos here on his Flickr account


13 August 2008

X38 Now and Then

Stagecoach 19093 (MX 56 PHK)

©Ian Kirby (Iantherev)

The Enviros are now the order of the day on the X38 between Plymouth and Exeter. By a nice coincidence I have just today come across a batch of photos from 2001 including this one of the X38 allocation of the time:

Stagecoach Devon P564MSX

This was not the only Bendy bus that I managed to ride on in Plymouth back in 2001 - but more on that tomorrow!

27 July 2008

It was a very hot day on Plymouth Hoe

The Plymouth Bus Rally does seem to be blessed with good weather most years but today's was exceptional. If anything it was too bright and sunny for photography - but that was a minor issue really. Below is just a few photos taken during the day - of the buses that Zak and myself actually had rides in.

Inside of the BMC Schoolbus

The one photo I took of the outside of this bus didnt come out as the autofocus on my camera gets confused when its too bright! a BMC School bus with 3x2 seating which Zak thought was a bit strange! He did enjoy the ride on this one as it had music in!

Western National 824 KDV

My all time favourite bus 824KDV gave a good performance as ever and we were lucky enough to get front seats upstairs which Zak enjoyed. Brought back lots of memories of catching these buses to school on the 6 and 7 and doing my homework on the front seats - the front ledge being a useful work base!

Girst Devon and Cornwall 38000 D700GHY

The opent op tours were the most popular all day - with good reason! D700GHY is a very nice and tidy open top conversion with very comfortable seats on the top deck. Its stall a real shame we cant have open top buses back around Plymouth sea front again though.

Plymouth Citybus 171 TTT171X

It was good to get back on a Citybus Atlantean. 171 looks in great condition on the outside and gave a good ride. It was interesting the number of people along the free ride who thought it was in service.

Western National 336EDV

Perhaps the most comfortable bus we rode on today - at least if it wasn't so hot, was this little Bristol SU. Always a pleasure to ride this great little bus.

As I said, lots more photos to follow during the week ahead. All in all it as was excellent event and big thanks due to the organisers. It was good to put faces to a few more names too.

Already looking forward to next years event - which promises to be even more special - but more on that later!

30 March 2008

More from Wales

Another couple of pictures from Mike O'Sullivan

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I’ve found a couple more photos of Plymouth vehicles that you might like to use on your web-site. They are of 154 and 157 which were hired to Cardiff in 1977. Both photos were taken by me on 29th October 1977. Mike

The previous posting of the Leyland Titans in Wales brought a lovely email from David Boulter which I share an extract below as much as a thank you to David and John as an interesting diversion into the past:

Your blog has brought back very happy memories of my very dear late grandparents and my childhood when I saw this morning the colour images of the PD2's in Plymouth City livery. It is nearly 50 years since travelling on them as a schoolchild staying on holiday from Bristol with my grandparents in Treveneague Gardens (near the Cherry Tree pub and Stock car racing stadium if my memory is correct.)

I'm afraid time has very much dulled the memory but I seem to recall travelling back from Mutley Plain - where my grandfather enjoyed a pint or two in the Conservative Club whilst I happily watched the steam trains - including the double-headed up Cornish Riviera Express storming out of North Road Station for London at 12.30pm each weekeday, and later the advent of diesels, entering or leaving Mutley Tunnel (long before the car park was built over its entrance) - or me taking a circular tour of the city by picking up a bus service opposite the Golden Hind public house. Which services went where I cannot recall but routes 30,31,34,35, 36 & 37 - some of which were circular services - ring strong bells. Perhaps from your records you would know the answers please to where these six services went in those days of the late 1950's?  Did services 32 & 33 ever exist I wonder? - I do not recall them at all!

(I feel an investigation into routes gone by is called for! GR)

Great fun for an 13-year old in 1958 on his own (in the nicest way, of my own desire to give my aged grandparents a break!) happily exploring and learning the geography of the city (as my grandparents did not have a car) for hours on end from the top of a PD2 in all its half cab glory! From there the love of buses and of Plymouth was born, never to be lost, the Plymouth PD2's with their fleet numbers in gold livery on each side, always remaining my firm favourite even after all this time! And now, at very long last thanks to your blog, I can see them after all these years in full colour in original red and cream livery. Thank you so much for publishing them and to your colleague for allowing that to happen. I've seen the occasional black & white shot over the years but never the colour ones I really wanted to see.

You probably couldn't travel around seemingly endlessly given the state of society today and children now sadly vulnerable to the undesireable attentions of an element of mankind. But in those days such problems were never even heard of and to me it was great fun riding around on the Leylands and I never ever had the slightest bother, always thoroughly enjoying my adventures around the lovely city.

Thanks again for such lovely memories. I have read your blog for many months since first becoming aware of it last year soon after moving to Torquay and it had always been my hope to one day see the PD2s in all their glory on your site. Now at long, long last I have. Please do not hesitate to show more - I for one will be delighted to see them!

Kindest regards, Dave Boulter MBE

I am always on the look out for photos of buses, and anything else of interest, as I know they make the most popular postings on the blog. Thanks you to Mike and John, and all the others who have allowed me to post their photos here. I never knowingly use photos without permission, and have never had a request refused either!

28 February 2008

Western National on Flickr


©Steve Thoroughgood

Western National is well represented on Flickr but this great shot caught my eye a few days ago so here it is! Steve has many other Western National shots mainly from North Devon and Taunton along with lots of other great photos. Click here for more of his photos!

22 December 2007

A Tale of Two Royal Blue Duples

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©AndyTaker's Dad from Flickr

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Both are Duple bodied coaches that proudly carry the Royal Blue livery. One is an elegant machine that you just cant help but admire. The other one is just plain ugly. Which is which? You decide!

11 December 2007

Blast from the Past


©aecregent (Flickrblogthis)
Leaving the bus station is this colourful Willowbrook bodied coach for Western National in 1986. In the design philosophy of the time; "Slap it on big, whatever", the side of the coach tells you about route X39.

Its been a while since I did one of these and many excellent photos have been posted online recently. Aecregent never fails to come up with the goods and I particularly like this shot as it features the smart livery (I know many disagree with me!) that was introduced after NBC Green - following on from the Hoppa livery carried on those horrible Mercedes bread vans.

These Willowbrook bodied coaches were not good to look at and I never felt they were that comfortable either but they were the mainstay of the Exeter - Plymouth / Torbay routes for quite some time. As much as I wasnt a fan of these coaches they were a lot better than the Mercedes minibuses which were introduced on the X38 by Devon General in the very late 1980's.

27 November 2007

Remember when...


© Alan Thompson

I wanted something special for this, my 800th post to Plymothian Transit (I still cant quite believe that!) so I was thrilled to come across this photo by Alan Thompson.

I can still remember the days when Milehouse was wall to wall Atlanteans which was always an impressive sight. Long rows of Darts are just not the same! To be fair to the Darts - it was really the large batch of those horrible Renault bread vans which saw of many of the double deckers. At least the move to Darts has seen the return of larger proper buses. I dont suppose we will ever see any new double deckers for Citybus again though.

Its good that at least First Devon and Cornwall are investing in double deckers for Plymouth with both new and secondhand additions to the city over the past year or so.

Thanks to Alan for allowing me to post his photo here tonight.

While I am celebrating the 800th post I will also mention a few of my other online activities:

I am currently building up the Plymouth Citybus visual fleet listing. This will soon have a page with at least one photo for each bus in the fleet. Currently all the pages are set up but not all have photos added. I am rapidly adding these - although this has meant a gap in the daily Citybus Photo Blog.(Not continued with!)

The next stage is the Citybus Timeline which I am slowly building up alongside. This is just a time line of Plymouth Citybus showing new buses and also repaints etc. This is at a much earlier stage of development so is really still an experimental way of presenting the fleet.(Failed due to the online host service not working correctly - might try again later)

I do have other projects in the pipeline but I am trying to be more organised and not work on too many different areas at the same time! Plymothian Transit will always be the main web site

Thanks to all who have commented and allowed me to use their photos etc over the past 800 posts.

22 November 2007

A long time ago...


© Terry Partridge

I have no time tonight for my next Architectural posting so just a quick Blast from the Past. Terry has just posted this excellent photo taken at Saltash Station. No dates given but the buses look pretty new to me in this shot. I can only assume that the Tamar Bridge was closed or something as I cant think of any other reason that the 76 would call in here at Saltash Station?

16 November 2007

Those were the days!


© aecregent

My son isnt well at the moment so computer time has been very limited. Just got to work and first thing I see is this great shot by aecregent. Back from the days when the 7 was run by real buses.

05 November 2007

Blast from the Past


© Ian Kirby

Leyland Atlantean AN68/East Lancs
Bretonside Bus Station, Plymouth
4th February 1989

163 in my favorite Citybus livery

30 October 2007

Blast from the past


© Ian Kirby
Volvo Citybus - Alexander
Bretonside Bus Station, Plymouth
4th February 1989
In those days, the Plymouth - Exeter/Torquay services were joint
operations - this one has just come in from Exeter. 1815 (as 32015)
is still working out of Plymouth today - but had a substantial period
at Badgerline's Marlborough Street garage during the 1990s.

Ian has been uploading some great photos recently including this one of one of my favorite buses in Plymouth.

14 October 2007

Do drivers always know best?

Well I am back in Plymouth after a very successful course up in the big city of London. I would like to say it was a very relaxed trip with all the transport links working brilliantly. I would like too - but it wasn't all plain sailing. In fact to be fair most of it was excellent with the train journies both running exactly to time, with plenty of room and no problems whatsoever. The buses in London were brilliant with a great value day ticket for £3.50 and buses seemingly all running full all through the night. Even my few trips on the Tube were great with no problems at all. Sadly the one bit that let me down was right here in Plymouth.
I had arranged to catch the 14:03 service 86 from Derriford Hospital as it stopped at Plymouth Station. This would give me plenty of time to get some lunch etc. before getting on the train. At 14:06 service 7 came in and sat at the bus stop for a few mins. Right behind it was the 86, just a few mins late. I stood behind the 7 and waved at the driver expecting him to pull in behind the 7. Sadly he decided I didn't need to catch his bus, and just pointed at the 7 and drove straight past. It was clear that he expected me to catch that one and not bother him. I was rather angry at this to say the least and had a good moan at the other driver who at least was still sat there. She tried to excuse the driver by saying that they both went the same way anyway so it wasn't a problem, until I pointed out that she didn't go the the station - then she understood why I was angry. I did catch my train on time, but only after a 15 minute dash down from North Hill leaving me no time for a wander around the station shops. Not a good start to the trip!

I will be sending in a complaint as it did make me very angry and was totally needless as the driver of the 86 was only a few mins down and could have stopped quite easily - I would have been the only passenger getting on and I had a pass so no need for the driver to stop and count out cash and issue a ticket or anything.

Like I said, everything else that First ran for me over the days went brilliantly and I will be posting a few photos during the week when I get chance to process them.

In the meantime here is another one of aecregents excellent photos he has posted on Flickr. If this one had turned out on the 7 I probably wouldn't be complaining about having to catch it!



06 October 2007

Plymouth in Bristol


© Ian Kirby
Leyland Leopard PSU5/Plaxton Supreme IV
Whitson Street, Bristol
27th August 1985

The day after a Bank Holiday was always a good chance of interesting
vehicles turning up on National Express duplicates and this day was no
exception. Plymouth Citycoach 354 was a former National Travel South
West vehicle in any case but it was always interesting to see familiar
vehicles with new owners.



Its good to see a few more bus photographers making the move to sites like Flickr as it allows use of the excellent blog this feature to highlight great shots like this one by Ian Kirby. I always liked this Citycoach livery. More of this excellent photos here