I'm not giving my usual run down on last weeks service registrations as I am working my way through the hundreds of timetables that I know about that have yet to hit my usual download. A big part of this process involves download the timetables from Traveline, which up until recently has been very reliable.
There is a phrase I have been hearing a lot recently in IT – “Improving things worse” Generally the art of announcing “improvements” to web services which end up taking things away that previously worked. More often than not these days its around giving us AI tools that you have not asked for and then increasing the cost to pay for these AI tools you wont use.
Traveline has “improved” its service, although thankfully AI is not involved so far at least.
It looks very different when you access the site:
From here you can plan your trip by entering start and end points which does work fairly well, but all I want is the full timetable for a service that I know is due to change in August. Its not immediately obvious from this page but as a regular user of these sites I know to use the ‘hamburger’ icon top left for more options
This then does give me more options including route timetable.
It is quick but straight away you see the main problem. This gives you all the services with this number. Previously you could restrict it to operators, or even just the individual counties across the south west. Dont try looking for service 1 as there are loads! you could try adding “stagecoach” but that didnt work. or even “13 stagecoach south west” that didnt work. So for now all you can do is scroll through the large list and then select the route option you need.
From there you can select the pdf button and get the old timetable pdf that you could before. OK so far its slightly less convenient but it does give me the timetable.
In the old days you could also see the service map, either as a download ‘diagram’ map which isnt the best, or display the map on the page. You can see the map to the right taking up half the screen. Ideal…
It even appears that you can select the options top right, sadly they do nothing!
I am hoping this is a work in progress as why have half the screen showing a map that at the moment doesn't add anything.
I still find Traveline really useful, and many operators just point you to the site as they cant be bothered to do their own timetables. I am hoping some of the old functionality will come back, like restricting searches to operator/ county etc which worked so well before. The route map actually displayed on the map page would also be great.




I’m assuming the ‘08 plates are staying even longer since 146 has had an interior refurbishment
ReplyDeleteThere's a badly damaged 70 plate E400 on the scrap line at Milehouse along with a number of elderly E200 the other day
ReplyDeleteThat was involved in the fatal accident near helston last year, and has been sat there since as part of the ongoing investigation. Which I think has now concluded, so possibly leaving the yard in the coming months
DeleteThe bus is 5015 and it's been heavily stripped. Gas buses 704, 705, 706, 709 and 712 are also there with most marked for disposal. Buses 526 and 2453 are also both parked nearby with serious accident damage. Buses 85, 91, 134, 137, 139, 164, 165, 5015, 5033, 6002, 6003, 6007, 6010, 6012 & 6016 (most, if not all withdrawn) completed the lineup on Saturday 23rd August.
Delete6002, 6003, 6007, 6010, 6012 and 6016 are all still very much in service.
DeleteThe ex Dartline ones, 6002, 6003, 6005, 6007, 6010 are all now transferred to Plymouth operations too , just parked over there not needed in the holidays but will be back when schools return
A bit like back along parking the yellow Volvo B10 deckers down the bottom of the lower yard in the holidays
2453 is very much in service and has been out everyday for a while, so id suggest no accident damage.
DeleteThe photo I took of the smashed up Enviro 200MMC clearly shows the number 2453. It had been in quite a serious accident.
DeletePerhaps its ticket machine has been out and about and not the bus! I believe that the ticket machine from Dennis Dart 61 is still used as a spare.
DeleteScania OmniCity deckers YN08 OBP, YP58 UGK, YP09 HWA/B are on their way to Citybus according to the Brighton & Hove website.
ReplyDeleteThese arrived a week ago
Deletethere are at least three blue scanias already at Milehouse, believe there are more on the way?
ReplyDelete4 already at pcb with the regs above. Another 6 due i hear
DeleteI believe these are ex Metrobus examples, possibly at Milehouse for repaint into Dartline colurs
Deletethe dirt area of milehouse seems to be be clearing out well now.. saw a citaro go today, and 2 e200s and a gas bus a few days ago all get towed onto the a38
ReplyDeletethe metrobus scanias are in poor condition, and only 2 out of the 8 here are fit for the road!
ReplyDelete91 left yesterday for scrap. The first of the 2nd batch of the EV's, BN25 DZG arrived yesterday too
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