25 August 2015

Devon Transit 017 24 AUG

Welcome to Devon Transit 017

Welcome to a massive post this week! We now have the final closure of the First Devon & Plymouth services along with all details of the new replacement service from Stagecoach. There may not be that many of them but there are plenty of timetables and maps to sort out. As if this wasnt enough we also have a few changes for Plymouth Citybus, Target Travel taking over the 52 in Plymouth and plenty of Stagecoach changes not connected with the Devon takeover.

 

Cornwall and Devon Transit Index 

 

The Last Two Weeks

Notices posted on VOSA in the last two weeks:

Plymouth Citybus Route 10 10A 10B Plymouth Saltash

VOSA

  • PH0000135/169 - 
  • PLYMOUTH CITYBUS LTD, MILEHOUSE, MILEHOUSE ROAD, PLYMOUTH, PL3 4AA 
  • Variation Accepted: 
  • Operating between PLYMOUTH, ROYAL PARADE and PLYMOUTH, ROYAL PARADE 
  • given service number 10/10A/10B 
  • effective from 18-Sep-2015. 
  • To amend Route and Timetable.

Then we have a new registration for this route - no idea why at the moment!

  • PH0000135/175 - PLYMOUTH CITYBUS LTD, MILEHOUSE, MILEHOUSE ROAD, PLYMOUTH, PL3 4AA
  • Registration Accepted
  • Starting Point: Royal Parade,
  • Finish Point: Saltash, Fore Street
  • Via:
  • Service Number: 10
  • Service Type: Normal Stopping
  • Effective Date: 18-SEP-2015
  • Other Details: Daily

Plymouth Citybus Route 42 42C  Plymouth > Derriford > Woolwell

VOSA

  • PH0000135/149 - 
  • PLYMOUTH CITYBUS LTD, MILEHOUSE, MILEHOUSE ROAD, PLYMOUTH, PL3 4AA 
  • Variation Accepted: 
  • Operating between Plymouth Royal Parade and Travistock Bus Station 
  • given service number 42/42C 
  • effective from 18-Sep-2015. 
  • To amend Route and Timetable.

Countrybus Route 177 Newton Abbot Totnes

VOSA

  • PH1017984/16 - 
  • ALANSWAY COACHES LTD 
  • T/A COUNTRY BUS, 
  • KING CHARLES BUSINESS PK, OLD NEWTON RD, HEATHFIELD, NEWTON ABBOT, TQ12 6UT 
  • Variation Accepted by SN: 
  • Operating between Neton Abbot, Sherborne Road and Totnes, Royal Seven Stars 
  • given service number 177 
  • effective from 21-Sep-2015. 
  • To amend Timetable.

Dartline Route 350 Langford Greeen

VOSA

  • PH0005305/56 - 
  • DEALTOP LTD T/A DARTLINE COACHES, 
  • UNIT 2, LANGDON BUSINESS PARK, OIL MILL LANE, CLYST ST. MARY, EXETER, EX5 1AF 
  • Variation Accepted by SN: 
  • Operating between Langford Green and Langford Green 
  • given service number 350 
  • effective from 23-Sep-2015. 
  • To amend Route and Timetable

The Next Two Weeks

First Plymouth Route 1 1A Plymouth Saltash

VOSA Cancellation (DT015)

  • PH0004983/335 - 
  • FIRST DEVON & CORNWALL LTD, THE RIDE, CHELSON MEADOW, PLYMOUTH, PL9 7JT 
  • Cancellation Accepted: 
  • Operating between Plymouth Royal Parade and Saltash 
  • given service number 1/1A 
  • effective from 06-Sep-2015.

Stagecoach Plymouth Route 1 X1 Plymouth Tavistock

VOSA Registration (DT015)

1 Plymouth - Tavistock

X1 Plymouth Tavistock

 

First Plymouth Route 2 Royal Parade Mount Batten

VOSA Cancellation

  • PH0004983/337 - 
  • FIRST DEVON & CORNWALL LTD, THE RIDE, CHELSON MEADOW, PLYMOUTH, PL9 7JT 
  • Cancellation Accepted: 
  • Operating between Plymouth Royal Parade and Mount Batten 
  • given service number 2 
  • effective from 06-Sep-2015.
  • Replaced by Stagecoach 2 2A

Stagecoach Plymouth Route 2 Royal Parade Mount Batten

VOSA Registration (DT015)

  • PH1020951/236 - 
  • STAGECOACH DEVON LTD T/A Stagecoach South West, BELGRAVE ROAD, EXETER, EX1 2LB
  • Registration Accepted
  • Starting Point: Royal Parade
  • Finish Point: Mount Batten
  • Via:
  • Service Number: 2
  • Service Type: Normal Stopping
  • Effective Date: 07-SEP-2015
  • Other Details: Daily service upto 20 mins Mon-Sat and hourly on Sundays and Bank Holidays on each service
  • Timetable: 2 Plymouth City Centre - Turnchapel. 2A Plymouth City Centre - Turnchapel

VOSA Variation (DT017 above!)

  • PH1020951/236 - 
  • STAGECOACH DEVON LTD T/A Stagecoach South West, 
  • BELGRAVE ROAD, EXETER, EX1 2LB 
  • Variation Accepted by SN: 
  • Operating between Royal Parade and Mount Batten 
  • given service number 2/2A 
  • effective from 06-Sep-2015. 
  • To amend Timetable.
2: Royal Parade Mount Batten
 

2A: Royal Parade Mount Batten

This is all still a bit confusing! Traveline only have the Plymouth – Mount Batten route timetables but the Stagecoach web site still says the route is Saltash to Mount Batten. I have tried the Stagecoach web site. You select the location as Saltash and it does indeed offer you 2 2A. You then need to select the date and time you want to travel (why?? ) and then you select Search : “We are experiencing a technical problem, please try searching again later.” I have had this for a while now. I know of someone else who gave up as well. They were hoping to get some printed timetables next week.

First Plymouth Route 3 Royal Parade St Budeaux Honicknowle Royal Parade

VOSA Cancellation (DT015)

  • PH0004983/336 - FIRST DEVON & CORNWALL LTD, 
  • THE RIDE, CHELSON MEADOW, PLYMOUTH, PL9 7JT
  • Cancellation Accepted: 
  • Operating between Plymouth Royal Parade and St Budeaux Square 
  • given service number 3 
  • effective from 06-Sep-2015.
  • No direct replacement by Stagecoach. Covered by Plymouth Citybus

Stagecoach Plymouth Route 3 Plymouth Kingsbridge Dartmouth

VOSA Registrations (DT015)

  • PH1020951/237 - 
  • STAGECOACH DEVON LTD T/A Stagecoach South West, BELGRAVE ROAD, EXETER, EX1 2LB
  • Registration Accepted
  • Starting Point: Plymouth
  • Finish Point: Kingsbridge
  • Via:
  • Service Number: 3
  • Service Type: Normal Stopping
  • Effective Date: 06-SEP-2015
  • Other Details: Monday to Saturday approx hourly, Sundays & Bank holidays - 4 journeys in each direction
  • PH1020951/238 - 
  • STAGECOACH DEVON LTD T/A Stagecoach South West, BELGRAVE ROAD, EXETER, EX1 2LB
  • Registration Accepted
  • Starting Point: Kingsbridge
  • Finish Point: Dartmouth
  • Via:
  • Service Number: 3
  • Service Type: Normal Stopping
  • Effective Date: 06-SEP-2015
  • Other Details: Mondays to Saturdays approx hourly, Sundays & Bank Holidays - 4 journeys each way
  • PH1020951/239 - 
  • STAGECOACH DEVON LTD T/A Stagecoach South West, BELGRAVE ROAD, EXETER, EX1 2LB
  • Registration Accepted
  • Starting Point: Kingsbridge
  • Finish Point: Dartmouth
  • Via:
  • Service Number: 3
  • Service Type: Normal Stopping
  • Effective Date: 07-SEP-2015
  • Other Details: School Terms only from Dartmouth to Kingsbridge

Timetable: Plymouth City Centre - Kingsbridge – Dartmouth

 

3 Plymouth Kingsbridge
 

3 Kingsbridge - Dartmouth

Replaces First 93 

Stagecoach Route 5 5A 5B 5C Exeter Crediton Okehampton Barnstaple

VOSA (DT014)

  • PH1020951/34 
  • STAGECOACH DEVON LTD T/A Stagecoach South West, BELGRAVE ROAD, EXETER, EX1 2LB 
  • Variation Accepted: 
  • Operating between Exeter Bus Station and Crediton or Chulmleigh 
  • given service number 5C/5 
  • effective from 01-Sep-2015. 
  • To amend Timetable.
  • PH1020951/101 - 
  • STAGECOACH DEVON LTD T/A Stagecoach South West, BELGRAVE ROAD, EXETER, EX1 2LB 
  • Variation Accepted: 
  • Operating between Exeter Bus Station and Hatherleigh or Winkleigh 
  • given service number 5B/5A 
  • effective from 01-Sep-2015. 
  • To amend Timetable.
  • PH1020951/113 - 
  • STAGECOACH DEVON LTD T/A Stagecoach South West, BELGRAVE ROAD, EXETER, EX1 2LB 
  • Variation Accepted: 
  • Operating between Winkleigh and Great Torrington 
  • given service number 5B 
  • effective from 01-Sep-2015. 
  • To amend Timetable.
  • PH1020951/164 - 
  • STAGECOACH DEVON LTD T/A Stagecoach South West, BELGRAVE ROAD, EXETER, EX1 2LB 
  • Variation Accepted: 
  • Operating between Great Torrington and Barnstaple 
  • given service number 5B 
  • effective from 01-Sep-2015. 
  • To amend Timetable.

There has been a timing change from Exeter before 0700 and minor changes to Service 5A and evening journeys from Crediton. The 1835 Service 5 from Exeter (Mon-Sat) is extended to Barnstaple as Service 5B.

Stagecoach Route 6 6A Bude Launceston Holsworthy Okehampton Exeter

VOSA (DT013)

  • PH1020951/183 - 
  • STAGECOACH DEVON LTD T/A Stagecoach South West, BELGRAVE ROAD, EXETER, EX1 2LB 
  • Variation Accepted: 
  • Operating between Holsworthy and Bude 
  • given service number 6 
  • effective from 30-Aug-2015. 
  • To amend Timetable.
  • PH1020951/184 -
  • STAGECOACH DEVON LTD T/A Stagecoach South West, BELGRAVE ROAD, EXETER, EX1 2LB 
  • Variation Accepted: 
  • Operating between Okehampton and Holsworthy 
  • given service number 6 
  • effective from 30-Aug-2015. 
  • To amend Timetable.
  • PH1020951/185 - 
  • STAGECOACH DEVON LTD T/A Stagecoach South West, BELGRAVE ROAD, EXETER, EX1 2LB 
  • Variation Accepted: 
  • Operating between Exeter and Okehampton 
  • given service number 6/6A 
  • effective from 30-Aug-2015. 
  • To amend Route and Timetable.
  • PH1020951/217 - 
  • STAGECOACH DEVON LTD T/A Stagecoach South West, BELGRAVE ROAD, EXETER, EX1 2LB 
  • Variation Accepted: 
  • Operating between Launceston and Okehampton 
  • given service number 6A 
  • effective from 30-Aug-2015. 
  • To amend Timetable.
  • PH1020951/222 - 
  • STAGECOACH DEVON LTD T/A Stagecoach South West, BELGRAVE ROAD, EXETER, EX1 2LB 
  • Variation Accepted: 
  • Operating between Launceston and Bude 
  • given service number 6A 
  • effective from 30-Aug-2015. 
  • To amend Timetable.
  • PH1020951/223 - 
  • STAGECOACH DEVON LTD T/A Stagecoach South West, BELGRAVE ROAD, EXETER, EX1 2LB 
  • Cancellation Accepted: 
  • Operating between Launceston and Holsworthy 
  • given service number 6A 
  • effective from 30-Aug-2015

6 Bude - Holsworthy - Okehampton - Exeter Traveline Timetable

6A Bude - Launceston - Okehampton - Exeter Traveline Timetable

Exeter to Okehampton will be improved to an hourly service. In addition to this there is an improved Sunday timetable

 

First Plymouth Route 6 Royal Parade Laira Marsh Mills

VOSA Cancellation (DT015)

  • PH0004983/463 - 
  • FIRST DEVON & CORNWALL LTD, THE RIDE, CHELSON MEADOW, PLYMOUTH, PL9 7JT 
  • Cancellation Accepted: 
  • Operating between Plymouth, Royal Parade and Laira 
  • given service number 6/Purple 
  • effective from 06-Sep-2015.
  • No replacement – covered by Plymouth Citybus

First Devon Route 8 Barnstaple Croyde Bay

VOSA Cancellation (DT015)

  • PH0004983/430 - 
  • FIRST DEVON & CORNWALL LTD, THE RIDE, CHELSON MEADOW, PLYMOUTH, PL9 7JT 
  • Cancellation Accepted: 
  • Operating between Barnstaple Bus Station and Croyde Bay, Ruda 
  • given service number 8 
  • effective from 06-Sep-2015.

I guess that this is another bit of tidying up and that this service stopped some time ago!

Plymouth Citybus Route 10 A B Saltash Plymouth

VOSA (DT014)

  • PH0000135/169 - 
  • PLYMOUTH CITYBUS LTD, MILEHOUSE, MILEHOUSE ROAD, PLYMOUTH, PL3 4AA 
  • Variation Accepted: 
  • Operating between PLYMOUTH, ROYAL PARADE and PLYMOUTH, ROYAL PARADE 
  • given service number 10/10A/10B 
  • effective from 30-Aug-2015. 
  • To amend Route and Timetable.

    10 Plymouth City Centre - Saltash City Centre

    10A Plymouth City Centre - Saltash City Centre

    10B Plymouth City Centre - Saltash - Plymouth City Centre

    From  Oaklands Green inbound 10 journeys will operate via Warraton Rd and Callington Rd to Fore St. Outbound 10A journeys will operate from Fore St via Callington Rd and Warraton Rd to Oaklands Green. Inbound journeys serve Frobisher Dr. Evening and Sundays 10B will be as route 10 outbound and 10A inbound, evening services do not serve Frobisher Dr, Spencer Gardens or Lynher Dr.

    Plymouth Citybus 10 10A 10B

Plymouth Citybus Route 11 Saltash Liskeard

VOSA (DT016)

  • PH0000135/166 - 
  • PLYMOUTH CITYBUS LTD, MILEHOUSE, MILEHOUSE ROAD, PLYMOUTH, PL3 4AA 
  • Variation Accepted by SN: 
  • Operating between Saltash, Fore Street and Liskeard, Ballas Street 
  • given service number 11 
  • effective from 30-Aug-2015. 
  • To amend Timetable.
  • Most inbound journeys run 5 mins later. First two outbound journeys diverted via Saltash School. 
  • 11 Plymouth - Saltash - Landrake - Tideford - Liskeard Timetable

Plymouth Citybus Route 12 Plymouth Launceston Bude

VOSA (DT016)

  • PH0000135/161 - 
  • PLYMOUTH CITYBUS LTD, MILEHOUSE, MILEHOUSE ROAD, PLYMOUTH, PL3 4AA 
  • Variation Accepted: 
  • Operating between Launceston, Westgate Street and Bude, The Strand 
  • given service number 12 
  • effective from 30-Aug-2015. 
  • To amend Route and Timetable.
  • PH0000135/162 - 
  • PLYMOUTH CITYBUS LTD, MILEHOUSE, MILEHOUSE ROAD, PLYMOUTH, PL3 4AA 
  • Variation Accepted: 
  • Operating between Plymouth, Royal Parade and Launceston, Westgate Street 
  • given service number 12 
  • effective from 30-Aug-2015. 
  • To amend Timetable.
  • Clock face departure at 0925. Extra time in afternoon school bus at Callington. No longer serve Marhamchurch. Some buses diverted in Saltash for school or college. Additional bus from the north to serve Callington School and Saltash College.

Plymouth Citybus 12

First Plymouth Route 15 15A Royal Parade Derriford Woolwell

VOSA Cancellation (DT015)

  • PH0004983/396 - 
  • FIRST DEVON & CORNWALL LTD, 
  • THE RIDE, CHELSON MEADOW, PLYMOUTH, PL9 7JT 
  • Cancellation Accepted: 
  • Operating between Plymouth City Centre and Woolwell, School Drive 
  • given service number 15/15A 
  • effective from 06-Sep-2015
  • No direct replacement from Stagecoach. Covered in part by SC 1 X1 and Plymouth Citybus 42

Stagecoach Route 18X Brixham Kingswear

VOSA (DT014)

  • PH1020951/233 
  • STAGECOACH DEVON LTD T/A Stagecoach South West, BELGRAVE ROAD, EXETER, EX1 2LB 
  • Registration Accepted
  • Starting Point: Brixham
  • Finish Point: Kingswaer
  • Via:
  • Service Number: 18X
  • Service Type: Normal Stopping
  • Effective Date: 27-AUG-2015
  • Other Details: Operates the Thursday, Friday and Saturday of Dartmouth Regatta week in August each year
  • Timetable: 18X Brixham – Kingswear

We have additional buses running for Dartmouth Regatta on Thursday 27th, Friday 28th, Saturday 29th August. These additional services will operate at the following times:

Service 18X (these additional departures will operate via the Kennels Road not Higher Brixham)

Additional buses from Brixham will leave at 2035, 2135, 2235, 2335

Additional buses from Kingswear will leave at 2100, 2200, 2300, 2400

18X Brixham - Kingswear

Stagecoach Route 21 21A Ilfracombe Westward Ho Appledore

VOSA (DT014)

Plymouth Citybus Route 32 A B Plymouth Torpoint

VOSA

Plymouth Citybus Route 35 35A City Ham Beacon Park

VOSA (DT014)

  • PH0000135/42 - 
  • PLYMOUTH CITYBUS LTD, MILEHOUSE, MILEHOUSE ROAD, PLYMOUTH, PL3 4AA 
  • Variation Accepted: 
  • Operating between PLYMOUTH Royal Parade and HAM Merrivale Road 
  • given service number 35/35A
  • effective from 30-Aug-2015. 
  • To amend Route and Timetable.
  • New 35A service running alternate to 35 following current route to junction of Ham Dr and Recreation Rd, then Recreation Road, Beacon Park Rd, North Prospect Rd and Ham Dr. Joining current route from junction of Ham Dr and Merrivale Rd to Royal Parade.
  • 35 Plymouth City Centre - Ham Plymouth City Centre

    35A Plymouth City Centre - Beacon Park - Ham Plymouth City Centre

35 City Centre Ham

 

35 City Ham Beacon Park

     

Plymouth Citybus Route 42C Plymouth City Derriford Woolwell

Its all a bit confusing at the moment. VOSA have recorded changes from the 20th September only but it appears that permission has been granted to bring forward the start of the 42C into Woolwell to the 6th September as thats when the First 15 ends.

Traveline has maps from 6th September for the 42C:

Plymouth Citybus Route-42C Blue Flash

but as I type this the timetable still link tot he old timetables. To add to the confusion the new timetable on Plymouth Citybus states as start date of 30th August, but of course you cant download those which is really annoying. I much prefer a printout to using the mobile

First Plymouth Route 48 Wembury Plymouth Burrator Exeter

VOSA Cancellation (DT015)

  • PH0004983/429 - 
  • FIRST DEVON & CORNWALL LTD, THE RIDE, CHELSON MEADOW, PLYMOUTH, PL9 7JT 
  • Cancellation Accepted: 
  • Operating between Wembury and Burrator 
  • given service number 48 
  • effective from 06-Sep-2015.
  • PH0004983/471 - 
  • FIRST DEVON & CORNWALL LTD, THE RIDE, CHELSON MEADOW, PLYMOUTH, PL9 7JT 
  • Cancellation Accepted: 
  • Operating between Exeter Bus Station and Princetown 
  • given service number 48 
  • effective from 06-Sep-2015.
  • Replaced by Stagecoach 48

Stagecoach Route 48 Exeter Princetown Plymouth Wembury

VOSA Registrations (DT015)

  • PH1020951/242 - STAGECOACH DEVON LTD T/A Stagecoach South West, 
  • BELGRAVE ROAD, EXETER, EX1 2LB
  • Registration Accepted
  • Starting Point: Princetown/Burrator/Plymouth
  • Finish Point: Wembury
  • Via:
  • Service Number: 48
  • Service Type: Normal Stopping
  • Effective Date: 06-SEP-2015
  • Other Details: Daily Service
  • PH1020951/243 - STAGECOACH DEVON LTD T/A Stagecoach South West, 
  • BELGRAVE ROAD, EXETER, EX1 2LB
  • Registration Accepted
  • Starting Point: Exeter
  • Finish Point: Princetown
  • Via:
  • Service Number: 48
  • Service Type: Normal Stopping
  • Effective Date: 06-SEP-2015
  • Other Details: Sundays & Bank Holidays until 13 September 2015, then from 29 May until mid September 2016 and at similar periods each year.
Stagecoach 48

Plymouth Citybus Route 50 Derriford > City Centre > Ernesettle

VOSA earlier (DT014):

  • PH0000135/13 - 
  • PLYMOUTH CITYBUS LTD, MILEHOUSE, MILEHOUSE ROAD, PLYMOUTH, PL3 4AA 
  • Variation Accepted: 
  • Operating between Derriford Hospital and Ernsettle 
  • given service number 50 
  • effective from 30-Aug-2015. 
  • To amend Timetable.
  • New Timetable: 50 Ernesettle - Plymouth City Centre - Leigham - Derriford Hospital
  • Retimed to address issues raised by drivers. Introduction of brand new Enviro 400 buses in YellowFlash livery from 1stSeptember.

Jacketts Coaches Route 52Jacketts Coaches Route 52: Derriford > Chaddlewood

VOSA Cancellation earlier (DT014)

  • PH1101608/9 - 
  • TREVELLYAN JACKETT T/A 
  • JACKETT'S COACHES, 
  • KINGSETT HOUSE,, ALBASTON, GUNNISLAKE, PL18 9AL 
  • Cancellation Accepted: 
  • Operating between Derriford Hospital and Chaddlewood 
  • given service number 52 
  • effective from 29-Aug-2015.
  • This route is being taken over by Target Travel (again) see below.

Target Travel Route 52 Derriford Chaddlewood

VOSA Registration (DT015)

  • PH1020218/3 
  • DEALTOP (PLYMOUTH) LTD T/A TARGET TRAVEL, 
  • LANGAGE SCIENCE PARK, WESTERN WOOD WAY, PLYMOUTH, PL7 5BG
  • Registration Accepted
  • Starting Point: Derriford Hospital
  • Finish Point: Derriford Hospital
  • Via: Estover, Plympton
  • Service Number: 52
  • Service Type: Normal Stopping
  • Effective Date: 01-SEP-2015
  • Other Details: Monday to Friday except bank holidays.

VOSA Amendment (DT016)

  • PH1020218/3 -
  • DEALTOP (PLYMOUTH) LTD T/A TARGET TRAVEL, 
  • LANGAGE SCIENCE PARK, WESTERN WOOD WAY, PLYMOUTH, PL7 5BG 
  • Variation Accepted by SN: 
  • Operating between Derriford Hospital and Derriford Hospital 
  • given service number 52 
  • effective from 01-Sep-2015. 
  • To amend Timetable.
  • Timetable: 52 Plympton - Derriford Hospital Timetable

Target Travel 52

Stagecoach Route 53 Exeter - Sidford – Colyford

VOSA Cancellation earlier (DT014):

  • PH1020951/189 - 
  • STAGECOACH DEVON LTD T/A Stagecoach South West, BELGRAVE ROAD, EXETER, EX1 2LB 
  • Cancellation Accepted: 
  • Operating between Exeter and Colyton 
  • given service number 53 
  • effective from 30-Aug-2015.

Stagecoach Route 55 55A 55B Exeter Tiverton

VOSA (DT014)

Stagecoach Route 71 72 Barnstaple Shebbear

First Devon Route 79 Tavistock Callington

VOSA Cancellation (DT015)

  • PH0004983/499 - 
  • FIRST DEVON & CORNWALL LTD, THE RIDE, CHELSON MEADOW, PLYMOUTH, PL9 7JT 
  • Cancellation Accepted: 
  • Operating between Tavistock Bus Station and Callington, Callington School 
  • given service number 79 
  • effective from 06-Sep-2015.
  • Mostly covered by Plymouth Citybus. Jacketts new 88 as well

First Torpoint Route 81 Plymouth – Torpoint

VOSA Cancellation (DT015)

  • PH0004983/35 - 
  • FIRST DEVON & CORNWALL LTD, THE RIDE, CHELSON MEADOW, PLYMOUTH, PL9 7JT 
  • Cancellation Accepted: 
  • Operating between TORPOINT FERRY and PLYMOUTH Bus Station 
  • given service number 81/81D 
  • effective from 06-Sep-2015.
  • Covered by Plymouth Citybus

First Tavistock Route 83/86 Plymouth > Tavistock

VOSA Cancellation (DT015)

  • PH0004983/32 - FIRST DEVON & CORNWALL LTD, THE RIDE, CHELSON MEADOW, PLYMOUTH, PL9 7JT 
  • Cancellation Accepted: 
  • Operating between Tavistock Bus Station and Plymouth Royal Parade 
  • given service number 83/83A/86 
  • effective from 06-Sep-2015.
  • Replaced by Stagecoach 1 X1

Stagecoach route 85 85C Barnstaple Holsworthy St Giles

VOSA (DT014)

  • PH1020951/126 
  • STAGECOACH DEVON LTD T/A Stagecoach South West, BELGRAVE ROAD EXETER EX1 2LB 
  • Operating between Barnstaple Bus Station and Holsworthy 
  • given service number 85/85/85C 
  • effective from 01Sep2015. 
  • To amend Timetable.
  • PH1020951/165 
  • STAGECOACH DEVON LTD T/A Stagecoach South West, BELGRAVE ROAD EXETER EX1 2LB 
  • Operating between Holsworthy and Bude 
  • given service number 85 
  • effective from 01Sep2015. 
  • To amend Timetable.
  • PH1020951/166 
  • STAGECOACH DEVON LTD T/A Stagecoach South West, BELGRAVE ROAD EXETER EX1 2LB 
  • Operating between Holsworthy and St Giles in the Heath 
  • given service number 85C 
  • effective from 01Sep2015. 
  • To amend Timetable.

    Barnstaple - Holsworthy 85

    Sticklepath - Holsworthy - St Giles on the Heath 85C

  • Afternoon journeys have been retimed due to Petroc College revised finish times. 85C will be withdrawn after 18th September 2015.

First Devon Route 89 Tavistock – Courtlands

VOSA Cancellation (DT015)

  • PH0004983/307 - 
  • FIRST DEVON & CORNWALL LTD, 
  • THE RIDE, CHELSON MEADOW, PLYMOUTH, PL9 7JT 
  • Cancellation Accepted: 
  • Operating between Tavistock Bus Station and Courtlands 
  • given service number 89 
  • effective from 06-Sep-2015.
  • See below

Stagecoach Plymouth Route 89 Tavistock Bishopmead

VOSA Registration (DT015)

  • PH1020951/240 - STAGECOACH DEVON LTD T/A Stagecoach South West, 
  • BELGRAVE ROAD, EXETER, EX1 2LB
  • Registration Accepted
  • Starting Point: Tavistock Bus Station
  • Finish Point: Bishopsmead/Courtlands Road
  • Via:
  • Service Number: 89
  • Service Type: Normal Stopping
  • Effective Date: 07-SEP-2015
  • Other Details: Mondays to Saturdays except Bank Holidays approx hourly
  • Timetable: 89 Tavistock - Tavistock Timetable
Stagecoach 89

First Devon Route 90 Dartmouth Circular

VOSA Cancellation (DT015)

  • PH0004983/36 - 
  • FIRST DEVON & CORNWALL LTD, THE RIDE, CHELSON MEADOW, PLYMOUTH, PL9 7JT 
  • Cancellation Accepted: 
  • Operating between Dartmouth Pontoon and Dartmouth Pontoon 
  • given service number 90/90A/90B/90C 
  • effective from 06-Sep-2015.
  • See below

Stagecoach Route 90 Dartmouth Townstall

VOSA Registration

  • PH1020951/241 - STAGECOACH DEVON LTD T/A Stagecoach South West, 
  • BELGRAVE ROAD, EXETER, EX1 2LB
  • Registration Accepted
  • Starting Point: Dartmouth
  • Finish Point: Townstal
  • Via:
  • Service Number: 90
  • Service Type: Normal Stopping
  • Effective Date: 06-SEP-2015
  • Other Details: Daily Service upto every 15 mins Mon - Fri, 30 mins Sat, Sun and Bank Holidays
    • There are no changes to the existing 90, 90A or 90B routes or timetable
    • The 90B via Archway Drive will be retained on a trial basis following the withdrawal of funding by Devon County Council from 20 September.
    • Timetable 90A 90B 90C

 

Stagecoach 90

Stagecoach 90B

Stagecoach 90B

Stagecoach 90C

Stagecoach Route 91: Dartmouth Circular

VOSA Registration (DT015)

  • PH1020951/244 - STAGECOACH DEVON LTD T/A Stagecoach South West, 
  • BELGRAVE ROAD, EXETER, EX1 2LB
  • Registration Accepted
  • Starting Point: Dartmouth Park & Ride
  • Finish Point: Dartmouth Pontoon
  • Via:
  • Service Number: 91
  • Service Type: Normal Stopping
  • Effective Date: 06-SEP-2015
  • Other Details: Daily Service every 20 mins
  • Timetable Dartmouth Park & Ride 91 Timetable
Stagecoach 91

First Devon Route 93 Plymouth Kingsbridge Dartmouth

VOSA Cancellation (DT015)

  • PH0004983/38 - FIRST DEVON & CORNWALL LTD, THE RIDE, CHELSON MEADOW, PLYMOUTH, PL9 7JT
  • Cancellation Accepted: 
  • Operating between Kingsbridge Quay and Dartmouth Pontoon 
  • given service number 93 
  • effective from 06-Sep-2015.
  • PH0004983/389 - 
  • FIRST DEVON & CORNWALL LTD, THE RIDE, CHELSON MEADOW, PLYMOUTH, PL9 7JT 
  • Cancellation Accepted: 
  • Operating between Plymouth, Royal Parade and Kingsbridge Quay 
  • given service number 93 
  • effective from 06-Sep-2015.
  • Replaced by Stagecoach 3

Stagecoach Plymouth Route 101 The George Milehouse Park & Ride

VOSA Registration

  • PH1020951/234 - STAGECOACH DEVON LTD T/A Stagecoach South West, 
  • BELGRAVE ROAD, EXETER, EX1 2LB
  • Registration Accepted
  • Starting Point: The George Park & Ride
  • Finish Point: Plymouth Royal Parade
  • Via:
  • Service Number: 101
  • Service Type: Normal Stopping
  • Effective Date: 07-SEP-2015
  • Other Details: Mondays to Saturdays except Bank Holidays

We will be running services from the George Junction (near Woolwell), Milehouse (at Plymouth Argyle football ground) and Coypool (near Marsh Mills roundabout) Park & Ride sites from 7 September 2015. Plymouth's Park & Ride services are the easiest way to get into the City Centre. Buses run up to every 10 minutes at peak times. Simply park, hop on and go. No expensive parking to worry about and our priority bus lanes will get you there quickly and easily.This replaces route PR1 with buses running up to every 10-12 minutes as now  Buses returning from Plymouth in the morning, and back in the evening will be renumbered 101 serving Derriford Hospital and all stops along the route The existing First Park & Ride buses will continue to be used until early 2016.

  • Buses from The George Junction and Milehouse run up to every 10-12 minutes between 0630 (from The George) and 1900 (from Royal Parade) Mondays to Fridays
  • Buses from The George Junction and Milehouse run up to every 12 minutes between 0645 (from The George) and 1900 (from Royal Parade) Saturdays
  • Buses stop on Saltash Road for those wanting to get to Plymouth Railway Station
  • If you work at The Land Registry or the Plymouth City Council Windsor House offices the 100 also stops on Tavistock Road (Future Inn stop towards Plymouth and the Windsor House by B&Q/M&S towards The George)
  • If you miss the last 100 Park & Ride bus to the George Junction just catch a Stagecoach route 1 or X1 bus which stops just across the road outside the George Pub. You can also catch Stagecoach route 2/2A to Milehouse Park and Ride. These buses will drop you a short walk away, just across the road on Alma Road (opposite the Life Centre carpark). Your Park & Ride ticket will be valid on these services.

100 101 George Park & Ride - Plymouth City Centre - George Park & Ride Timetable

Stagecoach Timetable Leaflet

  Stagecoach 100

Stagecoach Route 155 Exeter Tiverton Barnstaple

VOSA (DT015)

  • PH1020951/27 -
  • STAGECOACH DEVON LTD T/A Stagecoach South West, BELGRAVE ROAD, EXETER, EX1 2LB
  • Variation Accepted:
  • Operating between Exeter and Tiverton
  • given service number 55/155/55A/55B
  • effective from 01-Sep-2015.
  • To amend Timetable.
  • PH1020951/109 - 
  • STAGECOACH DEVON LTD T/A Stagecoach South West, BELGRAVE ROAD, EXETER, EX1 2LB 
  • Variation Accepted: 
  • Operating between Tiverton and South Molton 
  • given service number 155 
  • effective from 01-Sep-2015. 
  • To amend Timetable.
  • PH1020951/163 - 
  • STAGECOACH DEVON LTD T/A Stagecoach South West, BELGRAVE ROAD, EXETER, EX1 2LB 
  • Variation Accepted: 
  • Operating between South Molton and Barnstaple 
  • given service number 155 
  • effective from 01-Sep-2015. 
  • To amend Timetable.
  • Timetable 155 Exeter - Tiverton - South Molton - Barnstaple

Journeys serving Petroc Barnstaple now serve Petroc Roundswell

Stagecoach Route 157 Exmouth Sidmouth

VOSA (DT015)

Stagecoach Route 164: Totnes Salcombe

VOSA (DT013)

  • PH1020951/159 
  • STAGECOACH DEVON LTD T/A Stagecoach South West, BELGRAVE ROAD, EXETER, EX1 2LB 
  • Variation Accepted: 
  • Operating between Totnes Royal Seven Stars and Salcombe 
  • given service number 164 
  • effective from 30-Aug-2015. 
  • To amend Timetable.
  • Totnes Salcombe 164 Timetable

First Devon Route 187 Gunnislake Okehampton

VOSA Cancellation (DT015)

  • PH0004983/448 - 
  • FIRST DEVON & CORNWALL LTD, THE RIDE, CHELSON MEADOW, PLYMOUTH, PL9 7JT 
  • Cancellation Accepted: 
  • Operating between Gunnislake Station and Okehampton Station 
  • given service number 187 
  • effective from 06-Sep-2015.
  • No replacement – stops for the winter anyway

Stagecoach Plymouth Route 200 Coypool Park & Ride

VOSA Registration (DT015)

  • PH1020951/235 - STAGECOACH DEVON LTD T/A Stagecoach South West, 
  • BELGRAVE ROAD, EXETER, EX1 2LB
  • Registration Accepted
  • Starting Point: Coypool Park & Ride
  • Finish Point: Plymouth Royal Parade
  • Via:
  • Service Number: 200
  • Service Type: Normal Stopping
  • Effective Date: 07-SEP-2015
  • Other Details: Mondays to Saturdays except Bank Holidays every 10/12 mins

We will be running services from the George Junction (near Woolwell), Milehouse (at Plymouth Argyle football ground) and Coypool (near Marsh Mills roundabout) Park & Ride sites from 7 September 2015.

Plymouth's Park & Ride services are the easiest way to get into the City Centre. Buses run up to every 10 minutes at peak times. Simply park, hop on and go. No expensive parking to worry about and our priority bus lanes will get you there quickly and easily.

  • Coypool Park and Ride is less than 15 minutes from the City Centre by bus
  • The 200 stops on Coburg Street right outside Drake Circus Mall so perfect if you're popping into the city for some shopping or to get to work
  • Buses run up to every 12 minutes for most of the day Mondays to Saturdays except Public Holidays
  • The first bus leaves Coypool at 0630 with the last bus back from the City Centre (Royal Parade) at 1900

The 200 was previously known as the PR2.

200 Coypool Park & Ride - Plymouth City Centre - Coypool Park & Ride Timetable

 Stagecoach 200

Stagecoach Route 319 Barnstaple Hartland Bude

VOSA (DT014)

  • PH1020951/117 
  • STAGECOACH DEVON LTD T/A Stagecoach South West, BELGRAVE ROAD EXETER EX1 2LB 
  • Operating between Barnstaple Bus Station and Hartland 
  • given service number 319 
  • effective from 01Sep2015. 
  • To amend Timetable.
  • Barnstaple - Hartland – Bude
  • We have revised afternoon times for Petroc College from Barnstaple

First Plymouth Route 804 805 Roborough Tor Bridge School

VOSA (DT014)

First Plymouth 804

 

First Plymouth 805

 

Vosa Cancellation (DT015)

  • PH0004983/75 - 
  • FIRST DEVON & CORNWALL LTD, THE RIDE, CHELSON MEADOW, PLYMOUTH, PL9 7JT 
  • Cancellation Accepted: 
  • Operating between Roborough Bypass and Tor Bridge High 
  • given service number 804/805 
  • effective from 06-Sep-2015.

First Plymouth Route 806 Coombe Dean Devonport

VOSA (DT014)

  • PH0004983/467 - 
  • FIRST DEVON & CORNWALL LTD, THE RIDE, CHELSON MEADOW, PLYMOUTH, PL9 7JT 
  • Variation Accepted: 
  • Operating between DEVONPORT and COOMBE DEAN SCHOOL 
  • given service number 806 
  • effective from 30-Aug-2015. 
  • To amend Route and Timetable.
  • Timetable: Timetable 806 Coombe Dean - Mount Gould – Devonport

Firts Plymouth 806

VOSA Cancellation (DT015)

  • PH0004983/467 - 
  • FIRST DEVON & CORNWALL LTD, THE RIDE, CHELSON MEADOW, PLYMOUTH, PL9 7JT  
  • Cancellation Accepted: 
  • Operating between DEVONPORT and COOMBE DEAN SCHOOL 
  • given service number 806 
  • effective from 06-Sep-2015

First Plymouth Route 807 808 809 Woolwell Coombe Dean School

VOSA Cancellation: (DT015)

  • PH0004983/120 - 
  • FIRST DEVON & CORNWALL LTD, THE RIDE, CHELSON MEADOW, PLYMOUTH, PL9 7JT 
  • Cancellation Accepted: 
  • Operating between Woolwell and Coombe Dean School 
  • given service number 808/807/809 
  • effective from 06-Sep-2015.

Stagecoach Route 804 805 Roborough Tor Bridge School

New Registration (DT015)

  • PH1020951/247 - 
  • STAGECOACH DEVON LTD T/A Stagecoach South West, 
  • BELGRAVE ROAD, EXETER, EX1 2LB
  • Registration Accepted
  • Starting Point: Widewell/Robouough
  • Finish Point: Tor Bridge High School
  • Via:
  • Service Number: 805 804
  • Service Type: Normal Stopping
  • Effective Date: 07-SEP-2015
  • Other Details: Schooldays only, one journey in each direction on each service
  • Timetable 804 Widewell - Estover 805 Roborough – Estover

Stagecoach 804

 Stagecoach 805

Stagecoach Route 806 Devonport Coombe Dean School

New Registration (DT015)

  • PH1020951/248 - 
  • STAGECOACH DEVON LTD T/A Stagecoach South West, BELGRAVE ROAD, EXETER, EX1 2LB
  • Registration Accepted
  • Starting Point: Devonport
  • Finish Point: Coombe Dene School
  • Via:
  • Service Number: 806
  • Service Type: Normal Stopping
  • Effective Date: 07-SEP-2015
  • Other Details: Schooldays, one journey in each direction
  • Timetable: 806 Devonport - Plymstock
Stagecoach 806

Stagecoach Route 807 Woolwell Coombe Dean School

New Registration (DT015)

  • PH1020951/245 - STAGECOACH DEVON LTD T/A Stagecoach South West, 
  • BELGRAVE ROAD, EXETER, EX1 2LB
  • Registration Accepted
  • Starting Point: Woolwell
  • Finish Point: Coombe Dene School
  • Via:
  • Service Number: 807
  • Service Type: Normal Stopping
  • Effective Date: 07-SEP-2015
  • Other Details: Schooldays only, One journey in each direction
  • Timetable: 807 Woolwell - Plymstock
Stagecoach 807

Stagecoach Route 808 809 810 Milehouse Coombe Dean

New Registration(DT015)

  • PH1020951/246 - 
  • STAGECOACH DEVON LTD T/A Stagecoach South West, 
  • BELGRAVE ROAD, EXETER, EX1 2LB
  • Registration Accepted
  • Starting Point: Milehouse
  • Finish Point: Coombe Dene School
  • Via:
  • Service Number: 808 -810
  • Service Type: Normal Stopping
  • Effective Date: 07-SEP-2015
  • Other Details: Schooldays only
  • Timetable: 808 Plymstock - Milehouse809 Plymstock - Milehouse810 Plymstock - Peverell
Stagecoach 808 809 810

Stagecoach Route 910 911 Ilfracombe Community College

VOSA (DT014)

  • PH1020951/162 - 
  • STAGECOACH DEVON LTD T/A Stagecoach South West, BELGRAVE ROAD, EXETER, EX1 2LB 
  • Cancellation Accepted: 
  • Operating between Combe Martin and Ilfracombe Community College 
  • given service number 910/911 
  • effective from 31-Aug-2015.

Stagecoach Route E Exwick Beacon Heath

VOSA (DT015)

  • PH1020951/65 
  • STAGECOACH DEVON LTD T/A Stagecoach South West, BELGRAVE ROAD EXETER EX1 2LB
  • Operating between Beacon Heath and Exwick 
  • given service number E/F1/F2/F2 
  • effective from 31Aug2015
  • To amend Timetable.
  • Timetable: F1 F2 Stagecoach Exeter Timetable
  • Timetable: E Beacon Heath - Exeter City Centre
  • In Exeter our exciti routes E/F1/F2 will have a new timetable to improve reliability.

Stagecoach Route EXE14 Holsworthy Exeter College

VOSA (DT014)

  • PH1020951/228 - 
  • STAGECOACH DEVON LTD T/A Stagecoach South West, BELGRAVE ROAD, EXETER, EX1 LB 
  • Cancellation Accepted: 
  • Operating between Holsworthy and Okehampton 
  • given service number EXE14 
  • effective from 30-Aug-2015.

 

  • PH1020951/229 - 
  • STAGECOACH DEVON LTD T/A Stagecoach South West, BELGRAVE ROAD, EXETER, EX1 LB 
  • Cancellation Accepted: 
  • Operating between Okehampton and Exeter College 
  • given service number EXE14 
  • effective from 30-Aug-2015.

Stagecoach Route GOLD Plymouth Totnes Torbay

VOSA (DT015)

  • PH1020951/197 - 
  • STAGECOACH DEVON LTD T/A Stagecoach South West, BELGRAVE ROAD, EXETER, EX1 2LB 
  • Variation Accepted: 
  • Operating between Torquay Strand and Totnes Royal Seven Stars 
  • given service number GOLD 
  • effective from 07-Sep-2015. 
  • To amend Timetable.
  • PH1020951/198 - 
  • STAGECOACH DEVON LTD T/A Stagecoach South West, BELGRAVE ROAD, EXETER, EX1 2LB 
  • Variation Accepted: 
  • Operating between Totnes Royal Seven Stars and Plymouth 
  • given service number GOLD 
  • effective from 07-Sep-2015. 
  • To amend Timetable.
  • Torquay - Paignton - Totnes - South Brent – Plymouth
  • a new timetable which will start from 6th September 2015. There are minor changes to early morning and early evening journeys.

First Plymouth Route PR1 The George Park & Ride

VOSA Cancellation (DT015)

  • PH0004983/278 - 
  • FIRST DEVON & CORNWALL LTD, THE RIDE, CHELSON MEADOW, PLYMOUTH, PL9 7JT 
  • Cancellation Accepted: 
  • Operating between THE GEORGE PARK AND RIDE SITE and PLYMOUTH (Royal Parade) 
  • given service number PR1 
  • effective from 06-Sep-2015.
  • Replaced by Stagecoach 100 101

First Plymouth Route PR2 Coypool Park & Ride

VOSA Cancellation (DT015)

  • PH0004983/294 - 
  • FIRST DEVON & CORNWALL LTD, THE RIDE, CHELSON MEADOW, PLYMOUTH, PL9 7JT 
  • Cancellation Accepted: 
  • Operating between Coypool Park & Ride Site and Royal Parade 
  • given service number PR2 
  • effective from 06-Sep-2015.
  • Replaced by Stagecoach 200

First Plymouth Route PR4 Milehouse  Royal William Yard (event)

VOSA Cancellation (DT015)

  • PH0004983/523 - 
  • FIRST DEVON & CORNWALL LTD, THE RIDE, CHELSON MEADOW, PLYMOUTH, PL9 7JT 
  • Cancellation Accepted: 
  • Operating between Milehouse Park & Ride and Milehouse Park & Ride 
  • given service number PR4 
  • effective from 06-Sep-2015.

First Tavistock Goosey Fair P&R

VOSA Cancellations (DT015)

  • PH0004983/401 - 
  • FIRST DEVON & CORNWALL LTD, THE RIDE, CHELSON MEADOW, PLYMOUTH, PL9 7JT 
  • Cancellation Accepted
  • Operating between Harford Bridge and Tavistock 
  • given service number 1 
  • effective from 06-Sep-2015.
  • PH0004983/402 - 
  • FIRST DEVON & CORNWALL LTD, THE RIDE, CHELSON MEADOW, PLYMOUTH, PL9 7JT 
  • Cancellation Accepted
  • Operating between Lumburn Field and Tavistock 
  • given service number 2 
  • effective from 06-Sep-2015
  • PH0004983/403 - 
  • FIRST DEVON & CORNWALL LTD, THE RIDE, CHELSON MEADOW, PLYMOUTH, PL9 7JT 
  • Cancellation Accepted: 
  • Operating between Yelverton and Tavistock 
  • given service number 3 
  • effective from 06-Sep-2015.

Stagecoach Route X64 Exeter Totnes Dartmouth Salcombe

VOSA (DT013)

  • PH1020951/46 
  • STAGECOACH DEVON LTD T/A Stagecoach South West, BELGRAVE ROAD, EXETER, EX1 2LB 
  • Variation Accepted: 
  • Operating between Exeter Bus Station and Totnes Coronation Road 
  • given service number X64 
  • effective from 27-Aug-2015
  • To amend Timetable.
  • PH1020951/199 -
  • STAGECOACH DEVON LTD T/A Stagecoach South West, BELGRAVE ROAD, EXETER, EX1 2LB 
  • Variation Accepted: 
  • Operating between Totnes Royal Seven Stars and Dartmouth 
  • given service number X64 
  • effective from 27-Aug-2015. 
  • To amend Timetable.

Timetable: Exeter - Totnes - Dartmouth – Salcombe

We have additional buses running for Dartmouth Regatta on Thursday 27th, Friday 28th, Saturday 29th August. These additional services will operate at the following times:

Service X64

Additional buses will leave Totnes for Dartmouth at 2050 and 2250.

From Dartmouth, there will be additional journeys at

2150 from Dartmouth to Totnes

2350 from Dartmouth to Totnes and Newton Abbot.

Phew!

If anything the next edition of DT in two weeks time will be even bigger!

12 comments:

  1. Quite a selection!

    Three comments:

    (a) It loks as though, with the 76 gone, St. Dominick has lost its travel-to-work journeys to Plymouth;

    (b) The map for the 89 is wrong - the bus urns left out of Courtlands road and enters Bedford Square down Drake Road;

    (c) The 101 seems to be an astute way of using the 'dead' journeys on the Park and Ride - could take business from Citybus for people working at Derriford (and I imagine that was the idea).

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    1. yes - the 101 is quite a clever use of the buses and expands upon what First had already started. Makes the Milehouse Park & Ride quite a useful option for staff working at Derriford - assuming they are working the normal daytime hours.

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    2. 'Tis indeed a clever use of an otherwise dead trip. The whole network though, seems to be very carefully thought through and planned; identifying what people will actually use, comapred to First's old tactics of running routes against Citybus at stupidly low, totally unsustainable fares. It all seems to be very well planned and something Plymouth's needed for ages - a bus network which is actually use to customers, not playing games between companies. The whole network seems to be based completely on what people want.

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  2. When you're searching for timetables on Stagecoach's appalling website, you don't actually have to select a date or time. Leave it as it is and you'll get exactly the same page as you would if you chose a date or time, which is the page linking to the PDF timetable.
    The PDFs are now often no longer the printed timetable in PDF form; they're mostly some database lash-up which looks a bit like Traveline's offerings but not as easy to read.

    Those of you who want to know what Plymouth's fleet will look like in 5 years time under Stagecoach control are invited to look at what Stagecoach East Midlands have done to Lincoln - many of the Stagecoach buses here are only marginally newer than the First buses people are complaining about in Plymouth, and many of them aren't fully accessible despite the services being advertised as such.

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    1. Thanks for that tip re the timetables pdf. Not the most obvious option but it does work! It really shouldnt be that difficult

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    2. And the rationale for choosing Lincoln in your assumption of what Stagecoach will do to Plymouth over the next five years is, what, exactly?

      Why not choose Eastbourne, where a loss-making, Council-owned disaster facing heavy competition and operating a rag-bag of elderly DAFs and dreadful leased MANs has been turned into a respected, well-presented, profitable operation with regular intakes of new vehicles. Okay, so Stagecoach had to buy both competing operators in order to do this and Plymouth isn't Eastbourne but equally it's not Lincoln either, is it? Or do you know something that the rest of us don't?

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    3. yes, it does depend on where you look. There are places where Stagecoach are pretty poor and others where they are doing a good job. Likewise some ears of First seem to be doing all right and they are buying plenty of new buses at the moment - if you are lucky enough to be in an area which is getting them.

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    4. My experience of Stagecoach is confined to the South where every operation I've experienced seems strong, robust and resiliant. I can't comment on Lincoln but the track record of Stagecoach Devon's management speaks for itself. Look at how the business has grown and been transformed from a minibus operator over the last twenty years. Look at what they've done in North Devon. Look at the imaginative network they've devised for Plymouth. SD will make Plymouth work, mark my words.

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    5. Actually Lincoln does have new buses and linked services and they work in partnership with the council. Yes there are old buses but not every bus...unlike Plymouth. Also even the old ones in Lincoln are turned out presentable unlike First. There is massive room for improvement but it is not the run down mess First Plymouth is.

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  3. Stagecoach in Plymouth will be fine, there might not be the greatest investment in fleets like that of Exeter or Torbay, but Devon has a good way of moving buses about, so if Torbay gets new buses, then Plymouth might get some slightly newer deckers. Im sure Plymothians would look after the Hop12 deckers more than want the people of Torbay do!

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  4. with ref to the last few posts, provision of new buses is an indicator of a profitable area or one with potential.
    It's true that Lincoln have had an influx of elderly Tridents from Manchester but they have also had new & newish E200/E300.
    You can look at Firsts UK operation and make educated guesses about the profitable bits based on new vehicle allocation.

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  5. Do we know what the changes for Saltash are from 18th September?

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