Showing posts with label Dartmoor Explorer. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Dartmoor Explorer. Show all posts

16 July 2023

Exploring No Moor?

It has been very quiet for the last few days with just the one new notice, although its a significant one

First South West Ltd

 Licence Route Start Point End Point Effective Notes
PH0004983.622 Dartmoor Explorer Exeter Bus Station Postbridge, opposite National Park Visitor Centre 27-Aug-2023 Cancel

Note that so far only the Exeter half of the registration has appeared as being cancelled. The Plymouth to Postbridge section is still showing as ending on the 2nd September as originally planned. It remains to be seen if this is just a case of waiting for the admin to catch up, or if it really is continuing to run till September.

A comment on last weeks post sum things up quite nicely so is worth repeating here

Dartmoor Explorer route was cancelled by First before it even started. Ends as soon as possible given registration periods on 26 August. Saturday all journeys failed to run except 1000 from Exeter & 1525 from Plymouth. Does this suggest a half hearted attitude from First. That and only single-deckers

It seems from other comments that the lack of double deckers is down to tree clearance issues on parts of the route although you would have hoped these would have been dealt with prior to the route starting. Having at least some of the runs provided by a bus lettered for Taunton services cant exactly help with the visibility of the service either.


09 July 2023

Adventures by Bus - if you can find them

Nothing else new to report from the last few days – but we do have a few new timetables starting this weekend – Left until now as the timetables have now appeared on Traveline – who also seem to have fixed the future timetables issue so I have been able download a few more in advance – not that there is a lot coming up (so far)

Timetables changing this week


First South West Ltd

The new Dartmoor Explorer for the summer season. Now pretty much the old 82 from Plymouth to Exeter.

 Licence Route Start Point End Point Effective Notes
PH0004983.622 Dartmoor Explorer Exeter Bus Station Postbridge, opposite National Park Visitor Centre 09-Jul-2023 Daily

Every three hours
PH0004983.623 Dartmoor Explorer Plymouth, Royal Parade Postbridge, National Park Visitor Centre 09-Jul-2023 Daily, every three hours

N Eastwood – Royal Buses

 Licence Route Start Point End Point Effective Notes
PH1086607.005 33 St Ives, Royal Square Higher Penderleath Caravan & Camping Park 09-Jul-2023 Timetable variation

Taw & Torridge Coaches

 Licence Route Start Point End Point Effective Notes
PH0004727.022 31 Ilfracombe, St James Place Gardens Woolacombe Sands 10-Jul-2023 Variation to timetable

Quick Question

Why do operators still feel the need to just name their services rather than give them route numbers? I can kind of understand the name Dartmoor Explorer as a brand – but it could quite easily have been service 82 and given the name as well as the number – a concept that works well with routes up and down the country.

Why is it such an issues? well if you are trying to search for the Dartmoor Explorer on Traveline what you do type in?

Dartmoor Explorer? No

DE? No

Dartmoor? No

DME? No – although in previous seasons that worked

Actually the way to get the timetables for this service is to type DART.  Took me a while to find it – and only then by searching by location – which you really shouldn't need to do!

The Atlantic Coaster – try ATL

Sun Seeker – try SUN

Exmoor Coaster? EXMO

How many intended passengers would just give up?

Its not just Traveline that has issues. Go the First’s own timetable search page

and search for Tin Coaster 

There is the Adventures By Bus site which offers as nice simple page – but the Dartmoor Explorer isnt listed – the news and service updates page though offers this

After reviewing Dartmoor Explorer, we have identified that the route is commercially viable in the summer months and needs to allow for extended visits to Dartmoor. Therefore, the daily service will pause from 2 April. It will return with a revised route and enhanced timetable between Sunday 9 July, and Saturday 9 September inclusive. Further details will be published nearer the time.

I assumed that nearer the time would mean before the start of the service – but looks like I was wrong.

Maybe, just maybe, if the service was better promoted, easier to find timetables for then maybe, just maybe it would be more commercially viable? I mean it is a stunning route so they should be shouting out about it.

Meanwhile…


and a bit of a treat...

22 May 2023

Exploring The Moor from Plymouth

The full registration for the (now) seasonal Dartmoor Explorer is now available with one quite big and in my opinion very welcome change.

It now looks like it will be from Plymouth to Exeter.

 Licence Route Start Point End Point Effective Notes
PH0004983.622 Dartmoor Explorer Exeter Bus Station Postbridge, opposite National Park Visitor Centre 09-Jul-2023 Daily

Every three hours
PH0004983.623 Dartmoor Explorer Plymouth, Royal Parade Postbridge, National Park Visitor Centre 09-Jul-2023 Daily, every three hours

Its a bit early for timetable etc to be available but I for one am looking forward to it!

Delights of Dartmoor

© Nick Rice [cc]


16 May 2023

Dartmoor Explorer Returns

The latest notices published on the Registered Local Bus Services site.

As always click through for more details including timetables and maps. (although dont bother just yet as there is nothing much to see that's not detailed below!)

New Notices

First South West Ltd

The summer season registration for the Dartmoor Explorer. The other half of this service has yet to appear in my download so this wont be the full service!

 Licence Route Start Point End Point Effective Notes
PH0004983.622 Dartmoor Explorer Exeter Bus Station Postbridge, opposite National Park Visitor Centre 09-Jul-2023 Daily

Every three hours

Stagecoach Devon Ltd

  • The replacements services for the services given up by Go Devon.
  • Gunnislake circular Sundays
 Licence Route Start Point End Point Effective Notes
PH1020951.034 5 5A 5B 5C Exeter Bus Station Crediton / Chulmleigh 04-Jun-2023 Route and timetable variation
PH1020951.395 5A Crediton Okehampton 04-Jun-2023 Monday to Saturday
PH1020951.397 5B Great Torrington Church Barnstaple Bus Station 04-Jun-2023 Monday to Saturday
PH1020951.399 5B Crediton Great Torrington 04-Jun-2023 Monday to Saturday
PH1020951.257 21C Croyde Bay Bideford 16-Jun-2023 Operates from 16 -18 June 2023 for the Ocean Festival
PH1020951.380 52 Plympton Derriford Hospital 12-May-2023 Route and timetable variation
PH1020951.400 198 Gunnislake Rail Station Gunnislake Rail Station 28-May-2023 Gunnislake Circular - Sundays only
PH1020951.393 NASS (NASS Festival) Bath and West Showground Castle Cary Rail Station 06-Jul-2023 Shuttle bus service between Bath and West Showground and Castle Cary Rail station


Welcome back for the Dartmoor Explorer, for the Summer holidays.

Dartmoor Explorer


26 March 2023

Devon & Cornwall Transit Week End 24 March 2023

The weekly look back on what has been published on the Registered Local Bus Services site over the last week. As always click through for more details including timetables and maps. The First weekend of April gets even busier with a few more registration changes coming through over the last week. Hopefully this should be the last of the changes for next weekend!

  • Dartmoor Explorer Cancelled until the summer run in July
  • Revised route for Plymouth Citybus 20 after Stagecoach changed their routes through Sherford
  • Stagecoach introduce open top service 122 a bit earlier than expected

New Notices from this week

First South West Ltd

 Licence Route Start Point End Point Effective NotesTimetable
PH0004983.597 Dartmoor Explorer Exeter Bus Station Moretonhamstead Court Street 02-Apr-2023 Cancelled
After reviewing Dartmoor Explorer, we have identified that the route is commercially viable in the summer months and needs to allow for extended visits to Dartmoor. Therefore, the daily service will pause from 2 April. It will return with a revised route and enhanced timetable between Sunday 9 July, and Saturday 9 September inclusive. Further details will be published nearer the time.
Cancelled


Plymouth Citybus Ltd

 Licence Route Start Point End Point Effective NotesTimetable
PH0000135.171 11 11S Bodmin Parkway Station Wadebridge/Padstow 02-Apr-2023 Timetable change to improve connections at Bodmin Parkway Station
Service 11 has been retimed to improve connections with rail services at Bodmin Parkway. Restore link between Bodmin (Asda) and Liskeard
T002401
PH0000135.225 16 St Ives Rosehill Gardens 03-Apr-2023 Revised route to avoid unsuitable road T002402
PH0000135.226 16A Penzance Bus Station St Ives 03-Apr-2023 Revised route to avoid unsuitable road T002402
PH0000135.317 20 Ivybridge, Town Hall Plymouth City Centre, Royal Parade 03-Apr-2023 Devon County council request to revise route. Original route covered by revised Stagecoach South West service Gold. Revised route provides link withdrawn by Stagecoach South West T002411
PH0000135.164 72 72A Plymouth City Centre, Royal Parade Polperro, Crumplehorn 02-Apr-2023 The drivers have identified the first trip from Polperro shouldnt serve Hannafore, but operate via Barbican instead. No passengers at Hannafore. T002403
PH0000135.165 74 174 Callington, Tesco Liskeard, Lloyds Bank 03-Apr-2023 Revise short workings Liskeard - St Cleer to operate one way loop around St Cleer & Tremar - no suitable turning point T002404
PH0000135.194 180 181 Bodmin Camelford 03-Apr-2023 Revise route to serve Westheath & revise times T002406

Stagecoach Devon Ltd

 Licence Route Start Point End Point Effective NotesTimetable
PH1020951.126 85 Barnstaple Bus Station Holsworthy Library 02-Apr-2023 Revision of tender from 2nd April to provide 4 Outbound and 5 Inbound journeys per day between Barnstaple and Holsworthy Monday to Saturday.  Minor timetable amendments to enable service to be operated in line with Domestic Driver's Hours regulations. T002405
PH1020951.165 85 Holsworthy, Library Tavistock Bus Station 02-Apr-2023 Service (185) to be terminated due to cessation of tender from 2nd April.  New tender commencing from 2nd April to provide 4 return journeys per day between Holsworthy and Tavistock and 1 return journey between Holsworthy and Bridgerule.  Route renumbered to 85.  Minor timetable amendments to enable service to be operated in line with Domestic Driver's Hours regulations. T002405
PH1020951.385 122 Babbacombe Devon Bay Hoburne Holiday Park 02-Apr-2023 To reintroduce seasonal Open Top service, operating daily on an hourly basis. tbc

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