tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11828686.post734164373914519637..comments2024-03-28T18:54:00.518+00:00Comments on Plymothian Transit: Ssshhh dont tell anyone but…didbygrahamhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01858408719372985035noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11828686.post-70604309709309042892013-03-30T16:54:55.511+00:002013-03-30T16:54:55.511+00:00The new Sunday service is an extremely welcome imp...The new Sunday service is an extremely welcome improvement - bit of a surprise but a very pleasing one!<br /><br />This really is a proper cross-city service, and one that I hope proves to be worth the funding. Saw one of the SN05 mini-darts on it yesterday afternoon.Tomnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11828686.post-5450247318172020462013-03-30T09:04:11.534+00:002013-03-30T09:04:11.534+00:00“Now if South Hams were to allow housing to develo...“Now if South Hams were to allow housing to develop along the Wembury Road - who knows” This area would probably need to be included within the Plymouth City boundary for that to happen?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11828686.post-53022042278484076902013-03-29T21:46:10.850+00:002013-03-29T21:46:10.850+00:00Until recent years Wembury had an hourly service f...Until recent years Wembury had an hourly service from the City Centre with 2 or 3 evening journeys. The last journey of the day operating by request onto Staddiscombe, Down Thomas, Heybrook Bay and Wembury Point. However even back in the 1980's the 48 wasn't exactly fully loaded! Plymouth Citybus gave the route up in the 1990's and i can recall a lack of viability of the route being cited back then. Western National and then First kept the route ticking along without many changes until they had to cut it back 3-4 years ago.<br /><br />The new Sunday service is a welcome improvement and surely the focus has to be getting people out from the City to the beaches and coast path of Wembury and of course to Dartmoor at Burrator. There is great potential for Sunday bus networks for leisure, the vehicles are available it only needs useful services along with the publicity to make these services work. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11828686.post-77092289705568281922013-03-29T21:31:48.123+00:002013-03-29T21:31:48.123+00:00I agree that good service needs frequency and reli...I agree that good service needs frequency and reliability but it does not take away the main message from BG - that Wembury just cant support a service without a contribution from the council, which it has managed to do this time using money from the developers. didbygrahamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01858408719372985035noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11828686.post-92048076900218293492013-03-29T20:41:01.855+00:002013-03-29T20:41:01.855+00:00Some very good valid points by persons above. How...Some very good valid points by persons above. However is it not the case that to be a good service it needs frequency and reliability. Hate to say it but I just don't think First are able to deliver this combination! I don't support one company over another in Plymouth but look at Ugobus - all withdrawn except 15 that actually replaced service 7 if we are all honest. Citybus even under private ownership provide a reliable service. First need to sort their own ship out, evening services and reliability is their downfall.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11828686.post-45717218562104443852013-03-29T13:57:46.273+00:002013-03-29T13:57:46.273+00:00Unfortunately there is not a sufficient non car ow...Unfortunately there is not a sufficient non car owning population in Wembury to support a regular bus service. In the days of Plymouth City Transport in the 70s, 80s and 90s there was a regular service until a 2300 at night from the City. With the explosion of car ownership the route's patronage slowly melted away. (long before the days of FDC's couldn't care less attitude). The 48 will always share some route through Plymstock as there are only so many ways to get to Crossroads Garage to pick up the Wembury Road.<br />The 49 service to Heybrook Bay has now dwindled to just a few trips a day all supported by DCC. The closure of the gunnery school at Wembury Point saw the death knell for this service.<br />Now if there was a suitable coastal road link between Heybrook Bay and Wembury a canny operator might try a circular service encompassing all the conurbations. This just might have a chance.<br />However, dear reader getting such a road built is as likely as getting a bridge built to Drake's Island.<br />Now if South Hams were to allow housing to develop along the Wembury Road - who knows.Big Gnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11828686.post-18742676560305605672013-03-29T08:58:42.552+00:002013-03-29T08:58:42.552+00:00The Wembury 48 is a service that for some reason, ...The Wembury 48 is a service that for some reason, historically First (and probably prior to that Badgerline and other previous owners) seemed to have problems operating. Having said that the present Devon County Council sponsored Monday to Saturday service appears to me to be very reliable and well operated by First. <br />Going back to the past, whilst there were early morning and late evening buses, with an hourly daytime service, it suffered dreadfully from poor reliability. It was not unusual for several services to be cancelled leading to a significant wait for a bus to turn up both in Wembury and on Royal Parade. My understanding at the time was that the 48 was often used as an “infill” from other scheduled services coming in from places such as Ivybridge and Tavistock. This meant that if these services were delayed it was not possible for their scheduled journey out to Wembury to run. I have also been told that it was not unusual for the bus from Tavistock to run out of fuel on the way to Wembury, due to it having not been refuelled at Tavistock overnight. The problem of course was at this time the service was so unreliable that customers simply stopped using the service and found alternative means of transport. Anyway it is great news that this service is now receiving some financial support and let’s hopes it gets better advertised and of course most importantly patronised.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11828686.post-20468273026211370762013-03-28T18:12:55.270+00:002013-03-28T18:12:55.270+00:00Going back a few years to when I lived by Laira Br...Going back a few years to when I lived by Laira Bridge, there always were a few journeys that left the city following the 5 route, and then followed the 48 route to Wembury. I particularly remebebr the last journey off town, the 23:05, which according to the 5 timetable was a 5, extended to Wembury, but according to the 48 timetable was a 48, but running via the 5 route through Plymstock...Colly405https://www.blogger.com/profile/11883003572431901921noreply@blogger.com