tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11828686.post2200819244088846612..comments2024-03-18T23:11:58.780+00:00Comments on Plymothian Transit: Are lower fares really the best way forward for First?didbygrahamhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01858408719372985035noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11828686.post-42973993013611829442014-03-19T17:14:30.891+00:002014-03-19T17:14:30.891+00:00That could be that First are a bit more open than ...That could be that First are a bit more open than Citybus and don;t edit so much!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11828686.post-82143527425285511522014-03-19T10:55:01.609+00:002014-03-19T10:55:01.609+00:00so u think it fair to pay same bus fare from keyha...so u think it fair to pay same bus fare from keyham to city £2.40 retrun and from barne barton to city £2.40 <br />and from keyham to devonprt retrun £2,40 how the hell is this fare hay pay full route fare for few stops ,citybus answer that then <br /><br />first bus charge bye stops witch is better ,and I known first bus trun up not like citybus don't shown have look at citybus face book Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11828686.post-47181573843857134402014-03-18T20:11:19.694+00:002014-03-18T20:11:19.694+00:00Have read through some of the comment, indeed is b...Have read through some of the comment, indeed is becoming a 'child playground'. Lets put 2 things straight. First Bus Older style vehicles, cheap tickets, fairly regular service or ok service. Citybus fairly modern style vehicles, standard to mild priced tickets, regular frequency, ok service. At the end of the day, the fact First a few years ago had 'UGObus' which ended up being withdrawn two years ago, shows the pattern then, from what I gather at the moment 'Blue Flash' & 'First Tavistock' both seem to have equal loadings, The way this battle work out will be cost, as well as the style of vehicle. I.E a modern, reliable and comfortable bus, with tickets which are reasonable, and what the customers wants, I believe the best way for both companies to make the pricing part happen, would be to speak to customers, no with the PCB 'Chatter Bus' actually get on the bus with customers, ask them how much they have paid for there journey, how many times a day or week do they do that journey, is the pricing right etc! It might be slightly costly, but it could significantly help both bus companies!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11828686.post-4736371250711022192014-03-18T08:36:48.788+00:002014-03-18T08:36:48.788+00:00Strange you mention that I was only thinking that ...Strange you mention that I was only thinking that myself yesterday. It detracts from the site and I find the appeal is diminishing. Comments aimed at someone called 'Cuffy' and his retorts, comments made by M Hudson and, from the writing style, M Hudson under anon need to stop. It's not professional as an employee to cite financial knowledge and equally have spats on here. Graham could this be addressed as I fear your site is the playground I commented upon before. Martyn Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11828686.post-78899313791710057092014-03-18T08:32:42.005+00:002014-03-18T08:32:42.005+00:00Thanks everyone for their comments. There have bee...Thanks everyone for their comments. There have been a few that have not made it through (on both sides of the argument) as they are just rants against either side. didbygrahamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01858408719372985035noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11828686.post-30122120520691809772014-03-17T21:09:25.168+00:002014-03-17T21:09:25.168+00:00Although I like this blog there seems to be the sa...Although I like this blog there seems to be the same old tit for tat comments from the "first camp" or "citybus camp" attached to every post, it seems childish to meAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11828686.post-52563000635105960282014-03-17T21:07:10.700+00:002014-03-17T21:07:10.700+00:00A quick look at firsts Facebook page shows daily e...A quick look at firsts Facebook page shows daily either posts from first indicating missing buses or complaints from passengers asking where the buses are, there are a few comments saying citybus may be more expensive but at least they turn up. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11828686.post-33340413919025824052014-03-17T20:06:28.223+00:002014-03-17T20:06:28.223+00:00dreeeeeammm, dream, dream, dreeeam!dreeeeeammm, dream, dream, dreeeam!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11828686.post-67592574875129907682014-03-17T19:00:29.148+00:002014-03-17T19:00:29.148+00:00I think Citybus are getting a bit above themselves...I think Citybus are getting a bit above themselves here. Remember they have changed routes and times in Saltash several times over past few years and still First have come out on top...even when First fares were quite a bit more than Citybus. It will be the same this time. Why would anyone pay more for Citybus service when First are just as frequent and charge signifacantly less?<br />I went to catch a Citybus yesterday, first time for years as I now use First instead, I waited nearly 90 minutes for a 40/41 that is supposed to rin every 30 mins..just as I remember Citybus, nothing changes. Council or private owned.. the same.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11828686.post-10967721704732891742014-03-16T17:37:34.037+00:002014-03-16T17:37:34.037+00:00and why would any one use a bus company that is on...and why would any one use a bus company that is on the same route and u can get cheaper bus .so get of ur high horse about people will use citybus in saltash on new route ,all city bus is doing is following first routes there want push first out and then rip ever one off in Plymouth ,but first are staying Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11828686.post-33351446238393776332014-03-16T17:30:34.360+00:002014-03-16T17:30:34.360+00:00red flash 21 21a are ripping people off bye charge...red flash 21 21a are ripping people off bye charge u full fare for few stops ,and I seen 6 go past my house in ahour and empty ,couse putting fares up again ,and first buses had people on them ,Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11828686.post-50517248359545001012014-03-16T16:19:39.886+00:002014-03-16T16:19:39.886+00:00plymstick?? think you will find citybus rule in p...plymstick?? think you will find citybus rule in plymSTOCK. just wait till they go to mount batten!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11828686.post-24263761340630136332014-03-16T16:12:15.303+00:002014-03-16T16:12:15.303+00:00I commute to work daily (by car at the moment due ...I commute to work daily (by car at the moment due to distance) - I pass Camels Head twice a day at peak times.<br /><br />I have yet to see a 3/3A at Camels Head with more than 5 people one it, whilst the 21/21A is rammed. There is no way that First could be taking more money along this corridor.<br /><br />As for Saltash. It's already extensively used. The last trip off town at night 2308 always has at least 15 people in to Saltash. People that no doubt finish work/socializing at 2300 and have already missed the last First bus.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11828686.post-79958794298468958892014-03-16T11:51:02.833+00:002014-03-16T11:51:02.833+00:00The 21/21A has to be one of, if not the busiest ro...The 21/21A has to be one of, if not the busiest route they operate. If it wasn't, then why would they invest in 16 new double deckers specifically for the route at what, around £200k each? <br /><br />Even off-peak trips carry very good loads, in the evening peak it's certainly not uncommon to have a standing load in the decker. And it's nearly all paying customers too.<br /><br />I just don't see how anyone can say the 21/21A is not a well performing route - just spend 20 minutes or so on Royal Parade and watch them go by in opposite directions, even off peak. Tomnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11828686.post-26354979329368669622014-03-16T00:11:35.955+00:002014-03-16T00:11:35.955+00:00Erm I think the last first bus to key ham is 1945 ...Erm I think the last first bus to key ham is 1945 and citybus is 2015!! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11828686.post-1745550882619949622014-03-15T22:42:33.628+00:002014-03-15T22:42:33.628+00:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11828686.post-5051248002847829192014-03-15T22:25:06.019+00:002014-03-15T22:25:06.019+00:00Only if you are stupid and like throwing away your...Only if you are stupid and like throwing away your money. First rule in saltash and torpoint as well as plymstick and tavi as previous person statesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11828686.post-64987871123395961562014-03-15T19:16:47.831+00:002014-03-15T19:16:47.831+00:00I assure you, plenty of people use Citybus in Salt...I assure you, plenty of people use Citybus in Saltash; so don't include it in your rant.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11828686.post-72281316373992789882014-03-15T16:26:32.872+00:002014-03-15T16:26:32.872+00:003.00 AND 11.00 WEEKLY AND FIRST RUN BUSES LATER IN...3.00 AND 11.00 WEEKLY AND FIRST RUN BUSES LATER IN EVE ,I CAN GET A BUS FROM TORPOINT AT 23.00 ,AND KEYHAM BUS IS 23.40 IN EVE LAST BUS ,AND CITY BUS IS 22.50,KEYHSAM AND 18,30 TORPOINT THERE HATE RUNING BUSES LATE AT NITE ,AND FIRST LAST BUS FROM TAVISTOCK IS 23.30 AGAIN ,AND CITY BUS ARE GETTING TO MANY PIES IN POT ,THERE COME USTUNCK IN A MOW .LIKE TORPOINT AND SALTASH NO ONE WANTS THEM OR USE THEM ,AND THE NEW RED FLASH IS NOT DOING WELL FROM KEYHAM SEEING THERE PUT FARE,S UP AGAIN .I WAS ON FIRST BUS AND RED FLASH IN FRONT ,NO ONE WANTED IT CITYBUS EVER ONE GOT ON FIRST COUSE NO FARE,S GO UP ,CITYBUS ARE JUST PUSHING PEOPLE ON FIRST .WHOOPY .Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11828686.post-54985835824382862692014-03-15T11:37:14.281+00:002014-03-15T11:37:14.281+00:00First maybe cheaper but look at the network sizes,...First maybe cheaper but look at the network sizes, citybus now cover the same areas (except the 93/76) and will soon be in North Devon , I understand citybus sell stagecoach rover tickets so actually you could buy a ticket on citybus and go to Torbay/Exeter can the same be said for first? And what about evening services, Citybus run nearly all there services into the evening, so what is the true value of a first day/week ticket.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11828686.post-54904813923500687782014-03-15T10:50:42.368+00:002014-03-15T10:50:42.368+00:00This does appear to be a new marketing strategy fo...This does appear to be a new marketing strategy for First. They do seem to be making more comparisons between their Services and those of Citybus; ie rather than just saying 'This is our Service 81 it's great because blah blah blah', they now seem to be making comparisons to Citybus' services and aiming to convince passengers that theirs are better.<br /><br />Another example of this is the branding for the Service 81 - it has new branding stickers on the side with details like 'The fastest bus between Plymouth and Torpoint' and 'This bus has priority on the Torpoint Ferry, get to Plymouth quicker' and so on.Tomnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11828686.post-16366103684028666022014-03-15T08:15:16.444+00:002014-03-15T08:15:16.444+00:00A good summary, Graham. As you say, First has som...A good summary, Graham. As you say, First has some wriggle-room to adjust fares slightly and it seems odd that they're making a song and dance about not taking it! On the other hand, Citybus seems totally unbothered about First being there! It's all very reminiscent of a stroppy child who's tantrums get worse the more the parents ignore it! Fascinating to watch! :-)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com