First drop two more

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Further explanation was given in an email which was passed to hospital staff:


Following the introduction of the National Concessionary fare scheme in April 2008 Plymouth City Council decided to change the way in which the operators were reimbursed. This led to a significant reduction in the amount that we get paid per customer. Overall, despite carrying more customers on some routes the revenue that we are receiving is less. Services 10, 17, 18 and 48 are these routes. Unfortunately, due to the areas they cover they are never going to carry enough customers to be commercially viable, they are always going to be marginal at best and require some revenue support from the City Council on the basis that they perform a social need. As a result of the reduction in revenue, coupled with increases in costs such as fuel, where the wholesale cost to First has increased by around 50% we could not continue to operate these services at a loss. We therefore entered discussions with the City Council over whether they will be able to offer more revenue support to these services in order for us to keep operating them. Unfortunately they were not able to supply any additional funding even from the concessionary fares pot which has been a contributing factor to this problem. As a result Service 10 will be operated by another bus company after 17th January with a revised timetable, full details can be obtained by from the City Council, and Service 17 between the City, Wingfield Road, Stoke, Keyham, Ham, Crownhill and Derriford Hospital will be withdrawn without a replacement being offered. The Council are obviously fully aware of this situation. We did offer a number of scenarios that would have maintained the socially necessary service but that would require additional funding and unfortunately the funding could not be found. The losses that we were making on these routes were substantial and we could not longer absorb these.
Service 10 has changed hands before…
First have used their Solos on this route:
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And before that Citybus usually ran the service with step entrance Darts
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It remains to be seen what Target Travel use when they take over. Their passengers will be hoping for the pink Solos - anything other than those Marshall things!

Non-999 ambulances may go private

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Non-emergency ambulances in Cornwall and Devon may be operated by private companies in the future

BBC NEWS | England | Devon | Non-999 ambulances may go private

Plymouth Central Ambulance(?) V343DNDIt seems that a decision will be made at the end of January that may see more private ambulances out on the roads of Plymouth to replace South Western AS on non emergency duties.
SWAST, which runs most of the non-emergency ambulances such as taking patients to hospital appointments, fears the 999 service will lose vital back-up in times of crisis.


The Head of Commissioning for NHS Cornwall gives assurances that operators will have to meet stringent standards - but that does not actually answer the question. Will these private contractors be expected to make their ambulances and staff available for emergencies if needed?  

Flickr Sunday Best: Western National Lodekka

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UOD478 Western National  Bristol in scrapyard by Perryolf
©Perryolf via Flickr Blog This.


"This British double decker bus was seen at a scrapyard near Aarhus in Denmark in the early 1980's."
Helpfully Richie B has added some extra info: This bus is a Bristol "Lodekka". It was manufactured in Bristol, England in May 1956 by Bristol Commercial Vehicles Ltd. and fitted with that company's own power unit, as opposed to one of Leyland or Gardner origin. It's registration mark is UOD478 and it was one of 29 delivered to the Western National Omnibus Company in that year, receiving fleet number 1924. It has 60 seat rear-entrance bodywork by Eastern Coachworks of Lowestoft.
Perryolf has some fascinating photos on his Flickr account of older trucks in Denmark. Worth a visit!

The tgpresence

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The past year has been very enjoyable but always there was the conflict between what was wanted and what was possible. There never was enough time. So in 2009 you will see changes that will release time seeing I cannot create any more!

Terry Partridge.

Being a bus enthusiast in Plymouth is made so much more interesting and entertaining when you have people like Terry Partridge around. His knowledge and his photo archive is amazing and his enthusiasm for his own fleet of buses, and helping others preserve theirs by sharing his knowledge he is well respected by enthusiasts and operators alike.



If you want to keep up with Terry then he has a great set of blogs on the go for 2009:
tgprojects - His jottings!


tgpreserved - Keep up with his fleet
tgphotos - photos  lots of them - on just about anything - but always interesting!
tgphotos - five a day - even more photos!


TGP Flickr account - nearly 14000 photos and counting!

 



The fact that he credits me with his introduction to blogging is a source of great pride!!

Bread van for sale

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FireShot capture #265 -


What better way to start the year than to get your hands on an ex Western National Mercedes 709D. L635VCV is for sale now on E-bay. LINK.
Bus List on the Web show L635VCV as MB 709D 669003-2N-017864, Plaxton 937MHV2123, B25F, 2/1994, Western National 635.
The bus had been with JSB Coaches, Newton Aycliffe by April 2004 alongside sister 634. It  certainly is not in original condition with the new Vario front end and different seat cloth.
FireShot capture #266 - 'MERCEDES 709D

A lady with a following

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Plymouth CT 147 by C Pendrous If you have a Flickr account and you view bus photos then you have almost certainly come across Clare Pendrous, or 'Lady Wulfrun' as she is known as she posts lots of excellent photos from all across the country with very detailed notes. The latest Plymouth photos include this scene which appears to be taken in scrap yard, or at least they seem to be ready to go to scrap?


She has many more here which are well worth a look. If you only follow one Flickr account then make it this one!



Of course the best way to follow any ones photos in Flickr is to use the subscribe button which is at the bottom of her main page here. That way you wont miss any of here photos. I dont - and I know there are many others out there!

A quiet start to the year

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The 1st January is usually a fairly quiet day as most people recover from the night before. However, the start of a new year is as good a time to start any major new initiative so the date sees many key events over the years. Two of them which changed public transport in Plymouth (and everywhere else) are noted here, in my first post of 2009, and my return to regular posting after a well earned break over Christmas!


 

1st January 1948

 

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British Railways was born. British Railways (BR), which later traded as British Rail, ran most of the British railway system from the nationalisation of the 'Big Four' British railway companies in 1948 until privatisation in stages from 1994 to 1997. For Plymouth it meant the end of the Great Western Railway and The Southern Railway as two separate private railway companies. Bringing the lines in Plymouth under one common (state) ownership enabled lots of changes to be made over the coming years which probably wouldn't have happened otherwise, or at least not quite so soon.

1st January 1969

 
National_Bus_Company Forty years ago today saw the birth of The National Bus Company. Locally that meant Western National, Southern National, and Devon General. were all under the same ownership. It wasn't long before Southern National merged under Western National and then later Devon General was taken over too, although the name was to continue.


There you have it. Two starts to two different years both to have major impacts on the way public transport was provided in and around Plymouth. Things have of course changed a lot since these dates and in some ways have come around full circle with both the buses and the trains being run by large private companies rather than the state. Even the name Great Western lives on under the First banner although the Western National name has disappeared under a much blander 'First' branding.

 


I have set myself the aim of covering more of the history of Plymothian Transit this year than I have managed so far which means actually sitting down and reading some of the books I have purchased over the last year! If you have any suggestions as to what you want to see covered, or any information you think might be interesting then you know where I am!

I will be back - next year!

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I know I have been quiet - but to be honest I am enjoying the break between Christmas and New Year even though I am back at work now.

Dont worry though, I will be back up and running again from the 1st January and back to posting every day again.

For now though, I thank you all for your support during 2008 and hope you all have a great 2009 - even if it looks like being a difficult year for a lot of people.

Enjoy New Years Eve!

Christmas Best on Flickr

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©Bus Preservation via Flickr Blog This.

824KDV Western National superb night shot on Royal Parade.

Plym Valley Railway

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Better late than never, a few photos taken on Sunday when 168 TTT168X was on the shuttle service linking Plymouth Station with the Plym Valley Railway for their Mince Pie Specials running day.

Plymouth Citybus 168 TTT168X
168 ready to depart from the Railway Station
Albert Plym Valley Railway
Albert gets ready to depart
Plym Valley Railway

 



A quick video (taken with my digital camera so not brilliant quality)


then below we have my transport home 168 looking very smart as usual.
Well done to all involved at the PVR and the preservation group with their smart Atlanteans - always nice to see them back on the road.




Plymouth Citybus 168 TTT168X
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Thanks once again to everyone who has contributed to Plymothian Transit over the past year either by allowing me to use their excellent photographs (there have been some great ones this year) or passing me information for use on the site. Thanks also to those who have left comments on the site as these often add interesting points, and often correct me when I make mistakes!


Thanks especially to Brian George, Terry Partridge, Ian Byrne, Ralph Delbridge, AecRegent, Rev Ian Kirby, Daniel Marker, Dave Boulter, Nick Rice, Tom & Louis, Sou'Wester, Plymouth City Council Transport Section, and many others.

Things will continue to be fairly quiet here for a few days over Christmas as of course family comes first.
Have a good Christmas everyone!

 

Graham

Oh dear

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I am sorry for the lack of posting here over the last few days but its Christmas, and things are getting a bit hectic! Saturday was Zaks birthday too so computer time has been limited to say the least. I dont suppose it will improve that much over the nest few days either but I will have a posting tomorrow with photos taken down on the Plym Valley Railway and the Atlantean on the shuttle service - which was my real reason for going out.

Citycoaching on...

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Plymouth Citycoach 311 JSK264


©Brian George
Islwyn Borough Transport has just announced that it has sold its coaching holidays division 'Kingfisher' to a local coach operator. Their coach work will cease at the end of December, with just a few coaches retained for seat-belted school work.



Why is this news reported on Plymothian Transit? Because this leaves Plymouth Citybus as the only municipal owned fleet that are still running and advertising coach tours into 2009. There used to be quite a few but they have all either disappeared as companies or have just pulled out of coach holidays. Of course Citybus considered selling the Citycoach operation but it was trimmed down and saved due to customer demand. Mind you, its not just the municipal coach fleets that are on the endangered list as municipally owned bus companies are a dwindling band. The sale of Eastbourne to Stagecoach this month see's yet another company removed from this list.

Reminder

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atlanteanJust a little reminder...



Tomorrow the Plymouth City Transport Preservation Group are running Leyland Atlanteans on a free City Centre Shuttle to link to the Plym Valley Railway.


this is your last chance for now!



Click the advert to go the the web site and follow the 'Timetable' link.

Enjoy a ride on a real bus!

Sparks flew yesterday

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Gordon SparksYesterday was Plymouth Citybus Mufti Day where most drivers wore what they liked, with a few in fancy dress to raise money for local charity. Its always been a popular day and is fun for passengers as well as drivers.
It also saw their 'celebrity bus driver' BBC Radio's Gordon Sparks out on the road. He was out and about in one of the Citaro's which made a nice treat for those of un on the 50 in the afternoon. I have never been a real Citaro fan but it makes a change from the bog standard Darts we normally get.



He is obviously popular - you don't see many drivers getting kisses from their passengers!

Confusion over Plymouth's Citybus Ham bus stop

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First buses travelling on Ham Drive in Plymouth are refusing to pick up passengers at the bus stop at Ham Drive Community Centre, heading north, according to city Labour leader Tudor Evans.

Confusion over Plymouth's Citybus Ham bus stop (This is Plymouth)

This is an odd story to say the least. It seems that drivers are not allowed to stop there but that First, and the council don't seem to know why? The more I read it the less sense it makes! What is also apparent that this is more a publicity stunt by Tudor as neither the bus company nor the council have received any complaints about buses not stopping there anyway.

Odd!

New Improved Service

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Tamar Valley Train
This week sees the start of the new timetable for the Tamar Valley Line which runs between Plymouth, Bere Alston and Gunnislake. An extra daily train has been provided giving a service almost every two hours without the gaps that existed before. Apparently this is the best ever service provided on this line since May 1968 when the Tavistock section was closed.

Skipping off...

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Plymouth City Council 019.005 S886BDV
The council hopes to save £30,000 by ending its in-house provided skip container service and transferring internal customers to other collections. (This is Plymouth)

Sunday Best: 348EDV

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348EDV by MarkH
©MarkHarrington
Bristol SUL4A latterly used by a Leeds school and former Midland Red 6242 at Norths, August 1984.

PlymGo - coming soon

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We have had Ugo - now we are getting PlymGo. Interesting new service being launched very soon by Plymouth City Council. You can register your interest in hearing about the site when it launches this coming week. www.plymgo.com.

The City Council have developed a brand new, Plymouth focused, journey planning website 'PlymGo.' The new tool is designed to give people choice about how, why and when they travel, the very essence of travel plans, and has been designed in a user friendly format so it gives people the information they need.

The website has been designed to plan journeys on foot, by bike and by public transport and the private car with the results reported in terms of; distance travelled, time taken, calories burnt whilst on route and the carbon value of your journey- this means we hope to tie in with the entire spectrum of New Year resolutions. However, the site will only be successful if people use it. We are therefore asking for your help. The site will go live on the 15th December. As an incentive to people registering at www.plymgo.com the first 500 people using the site will receive promotional merchandise.
If the teaser screen shot is an indication then this is a good looking service with decent maps and should be a lot easier to use than the current city council site that goes with the real time information system. I will be covering this in more detail once it launches next week. The City Council really are getting serious about promoting public transport!

Reminder

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atlanteanJust a little reminder...



Tomorrow the Plymouth City Transport Preservation Group are running Leyland Atlanteans on a free City Centre Shuttle to link to the Plym Valley Railway.



Click the advert to go the the web site and follow the 'Timetable' link.

Enjoy a ride on a real bus!

Life after Trathens

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Soul, Olney (BK):  50 DBD
©Peter Relf. Used with Peters permission.


 

Soul, Olney (BK):  50 DBD.  Auwaerter Neoplan N122/3 with CH57/18CT body.  It was new in 12/01 to Trathens, Plymouth (DN) as YN51 XMH. Park Lane, London   10th May 2008.
Looking a lot smarte than it ever did in National Express livery!

Research Way.

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Research Way
Another photos from Steve Bagley, this time of the new bus stop shelters installed down at the bottom of Research Way in the Tamar Science Park development with the infamous Derriford cigarette in the background. The contract service for the Medical School (just down to the left of this picture) requires a double decker so probably does need the double shelter arrangement even though few other people seem to use this stop. Anything which helps to improve the experience of waiting for buses has to be a good thing.

First Great Western say trains linking Plymouth and London to stop at Ivybridge

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HIGH-SPEED trains linking Plymouth and London are to stop at Ivybridge for the first time as part of a new winter timetable unveiled by First Great Western.

First Great Western say trains linking Plymouth and London to stop at Ivybridge (This is Plymouth)

Extra services are always welcome. This will certainly make life a lot easier for people living in Ivybridge. It seems that three services each way a day will stop at Ivybridge. Great news.

No more bent bus stop

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Derriford Hospital: Before 


Thanks to Steve Bagley from Plymouth City Council for these photos giving us the before and after views of the front of Derriford Hospital



The famous 'bent bus stop' at the top end of this stop can be seen in the distance.

The much improved shelters and the new flags can be seen below.

Just the Real Time displays and the lighting to sort out now and it will all be finished.

 



Brilliant!



 

Derriford Hospital: After

School kids left stranded in rain by bus

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SCHOOL children in Plymouth were left stranded in the rain, after drivers of over-crowded buses refused their fare. Bus company First National told their drivers to refuse school pupils once buses reach full-capacity, after parents complained that the essential transporters were dangerously overcrowded

School kids left stranded in rain by bus (This is Plymouth)

This story has been great to follow on the This is Plymouth site as it does show up an awful lot of ignorance by the people (and the reporter - "First National"?!) of Plymouth. As I type this there are over 70 comments many of them hostile to the company. People seem to think that someone else should come in and run this - not for profit. Cant see that happening!
Another comments suggests that the City Council should give Citybus permission to run to Plymstock. The fact that they dont need council permission, and indeed already operate into Plymstock albeit on a tendered run seems to have passed this person by. The one good thing to see is that the pupils have come out in support of their regular drivers of this service. Knowing one of the drivers who does this run, that support is well deserved.
Si if you want some entertainment pop over to the This is Plymouth site and read the comments HERE

Sunday Best: Western National SFJ101R

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SFJ101R by AEC Regent
©AECRegent (Via Flickr)
I am sure that this was one of the experiments before WN adopted the smart blue and cream with red livery to replace the Birdseye livery which was not one of the better received liveries! I am certainly glad they went for the blue and cream which was generally well thought off.

[For some reason several of my 'future booked' postings have not published as I expected - this should have gone live on Sunday!]